More Hubbard info coming to light?

This is isn't Utah (thank God). A 26 year old kicked off the team for drinking legally? Last time I was downtown Iowa City, I saw most of the team drinking illegally.
 
FML said:
This is isn't Utah (thank God). A 26 year old kicked off the team for drinking legally? Last time I was downtown Iowa City, I saw most of the team drinking illegally.
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Dean Wormer hadn't put them on double secret probation.
 
tweeterhawk said:
Come back when you guys join the real world. We'll throw you a welcome party.
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Are you kidding me? Anthony Hubbard, in the real world, had a choice where to go to school. He had a choice whether to accept the terms of his scholarship. He had a choice as to whether or not he would follow them.

The entire chain of causality falls directly onto Mr. Hubbard's choices, and not at all on the University of Iowa's conditions. Mr. Hubbard entered a contract freely as an adult, ostensibly understood the terms of that contract, and then violated it. The situation is, in no uncertain terms, 100% his fault.

End of story.
 
FML said:
This is isn't Utah (thank God). A 26 year old kicked off the team for drinking legally? Last time I was downtown Iowa City, I saw most of the team drinking illegally.
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Unless you're a complete idiot, you know that's a drastic oversimplification of the situation.
 
As a teacher and coach, I've enforced "special rules that apply to you" a number of times. Kids who had previous records of trouble and were on a "last strike" policy, which could result in something like getting expelled because of a tardy. At first glance, it seems ridiculous, but then you look at the kid's priors....

I once -- against the judgment of the head coach -- gave a kid a chance in track, who had a juvenile record. He also had the talent to be a state finalist and a D1 recruit in the 800 if he ever ran for four months in a row. We made a "no tolerance" deal -- he had to be a model citizen or else he was history. He was 15min late for practice once day. Any other kid, it would have been 100 push-ups, 100 pull-ups. For him, done. He went to two other schools before graduating, and never did anything in track.... Broke my heart, but when you take on high-risk kids, you accept the possible outcomes....

I don't fault Fran for giving the guy a chance, or keeping him to "special rules," if that was indeed the case. A guy/kid in that situation needs to realize that no, they are not like anyone else, and that accepting a position on the team carries with it an extra burden.

Between him and Glover? You take the risk on Hubbard. Easy call, I think -- if you manage the risk so that it doesn't put a stain on the program. Whatever was handled -- if something was handled -- was handled discreetly and there is no stain. Everybody moves on.
 
I said on Monday that I had heard he was kicked off the team for assaulting a women. I've had 2 other peoples tell me the same thing since. I doubt we ever know for sure though. At this point, who cares? He is gone. F him
 
DexterMorgan said:
I figured it was something that wasn't egregious but broke the rules set forth on him. Can we all just move on now?
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I have I am far more concerned with Eric May's improvement than the reasons why Hubbard left. May be I am alone I just do not care why Hubbard left anymore.
 
Wassabbe said:
I said on Monday that I had heard he was kicked off the team for assaulting a women. I've had 2 other peoples tell me the same thing since. I doubt we ever know for sure though. At this point, who cares? He is gone. F him
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I agree. To me it makes no difference why he is gone. This was always going to be a case if it worked then great and if it didn't it was a bad decision. One I doubt Fran will make again. I don't blame him for trying with the pressure coaches face to win right now. At the same time I don't think we are talking about an elite talent so I don't think the reward was worth the risk.
 
From what I have learned about the situation what wassabi just said is 100% false. Of course unlike him I'm not just blindly perpetuating rumours I've heard in a bar from my college buddies.
 
Hawkfromnorwalk said:
Sources: Hubbard was kicked off UI basketball team

The rumor that Hubbard may have broken rules placed upon him due to his past seems to be gaining momentum. Looks like he was enjoying an adult beverage despite when he shouldn't have been.
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Not a single named source. This is just a crappy internet article designed to generate hits. I am pretty sure an internet source has never worried about a libel suit. This is bull.
 
As others have said this is coming from a guy with a pretty good reputation. It's not like you heard it first from some internet message board schmuck. Wait, you did.
 
PalmettoHawkFan said:
As a teacher and coach, I've enforced "special rules that apply to you" a number of times. Kids who had previous records of trouble and were on a "last strike" policy, which could result in something like getting expelled because of a tardy. At first glance, it seems ridiculous, but then you look at the kid's priors....

I once -- against the judgment of the head coach -- gave a kid a chance in track, who had a juvenile record. He also had the talent to be a state finalist and a D1 recruit in the 800 if he ever ran for four months in a row. We made a "no tolerance" deal -- he had to be a model citizen or else he was history. He was 15min late for practice once day. Any other kid, it would have been 100 push-ups, 100 pull-ups. For him, done. He went to two other schools before graduating, and never did anything in track.... Broke my heart, but when you take on high-risk kids, you accept the possible outcomes....

I don't fault Fran for giving the guy a chance, or keeping him to "special rules," if that was indeed the case. A guy/kid in that situation needs to realize that no, they are not like anyone else, and that accepting a position on the team carries with it an extra burden.

Between him and Glover? You take the risk on Hubbard. Easy call, I think -- if you manage the risk so that it doesn't put a stain on the program. Whatever was handled -- if something was handled -- was handled discreetly and there is no stain. Everybody moves on.
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You should be ashamed of letting a kid like that who it sounds like his only hope of doing anything in life was based on his track skills go.

You don't let kid's like that go, you embrace them and stick by there side to show them that people care.

SHAME ON YOU.
 
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