Former Players On Ferentz’s Impact











As also mentioned by Pat Angerer, he doesn't chase the spotlight. So many things he does behind closed doors that we will never hear about. Showing up to funerals, words of encouragement well after their time was finished at Iowa, even Petras being welcomed back to rehab when he had moved on to Utah State.

I have argued with a fellow Hawkeye fan that is critical of KF as a coach. I always bring up how so many of his former players staunchly back him and show the utmost respect for him. He always argues that other coaches have the same thing happen to them.

I disagree. Sure there are always going to be feel good stories about coaches and their players. But I would argue that what KF does as a coach and as a person transcends beyond that. Stories upon stories could fill a book on what KF has meant to so many of his players.
 


As also mentioned by Pat Angerer, he doesn't chase the spotlight. So many things he does behind closed doors that we will never hear about. Showing up to funerals, words of encouragement well after their time was finished at Iowa, even Petras being welcomed back to rehab when he had moved on to Utah State.

I have argued with a fellow Hawkeye fan that is critical of KF as a coach. I always bring up how so many of his former players staunchly back him and show the utmost respect for him. He always argues that other coaches have the same thing happen to them.

I disagree. Sure there are always going to be feel good stories about coaches and their players. But I would argue that what KF does as a coach and as a person transcends beyond that. Stories upon stories could fill a book on what KF has meant to so many of his players.
I think most coaches genuinely care about their kids and would do most anything to help them grow into men and be successful. There are exceptions, but I think most college football coaches are there because they love the sport and they love their kids.

Do I think KF is more special than most in this regard? Yes, I do. I am biased, but when you see that guy tear up in nearly every damn post game interview, you know he gives a shit about his kids and the program. He also is nothing but class to the media, refs, fans, etc. He is just a real dude.

The only real mark against him in his 25+ years is the racial stuff that came out involving Doyle and perhaps his dopey son. There were some former black players that spoke out against the culture of the program in that regard. But, in a very KF fashion, he showed humility, apologized, and made meaningful changes to his program. He is a good man. Period.
 


I think most coaches genuinely care about their kids and would do most anything to help them grow into men and be successful. There are exceptions, but I think most college football coaches are there because they love the sport and they love their kids.

Do I think KF is more special than most in this regard? Yes, I do. I am biased, but when you see that guy tear up in nearly every damn post game interview, you know he gives a shit about his kids and the program. He also is nothing but class to the media, refs, fans, etc. He is just a real dude.

The only real mark against him in his 25+ years is the racial stuff that came out involving Doyle and perhaps his dopey son. There were some former black players that spoke out against the culture of the program in that regard. But, in a very KF fashion, he showed humility, apologized, and made meaningful changes to his program. He is a good man. Period.
I also don't think coaches always consciously realize the effect they have on their guys.

My son's best friend and teammate graduated with him this year and is going on to play college ball. I like him a lot and have known him since he was barely walking. When I went to his grad party he gave me a huge hug and he and his mom said how much baseball had a positive impact on him and said I was a big influence on him in general. Totally caught me off guard because in no way am I Norman Dale. Not at all.

I will be the first one to say I don't have any special skills, I'm no Kirk Ferentz...not even in the same solar system...and I didn't do anything that I didn't learn myself from my own playing experience. I was just a youth and HS baseball coach and not a standout one at that if I'm honest with myself. Never treated him different or anything like that. But baseball was his thing and I think he liked having the same coach for 13 or whatever years. Something about it was a bright spot for him. He didn't have a dad growing up and maybe it was just me being the guy who showed him how to catch a ball and swing a bat who knows? Bottom line is as adults we get oblivious to the fact that these are young guys that are being shaped to whatever degree by the people in their lives. It can either be a good experience or a bad one, myself I was lucky to have coaches growing up I loved playing for. My HS coach I'd take a bullet for right this minute and I'm not exaggerating.

Also in full disclosure there are a couple kids I know who didn't like me as a coach and their parents didn't either. It happens. As long as you do everything the same for every kid and hold every kid to the same standards that's all you can do. Luckily I feel there's way more good experiences than those few less-good ones.

KF is obviously a great guy to have in your corner and whatever he's doing with these guys he's damn good at it. That's awesome.
 


This is an excellent read.


Thanks for posting this!!! Hell of an article. I admire writers that are story tellers and that can put something together like that. The going back in time and contextualizing everything is so needed when talking about someone like KF. So well done and we should be thanking our lucky stars that he's been our coach all this time. I know I do
 


I also don't think coaches always consciously realize the effect they have on their guys.

My son's best friend and teammate graduated with him this year and is going on to play college ball. I like him a lot and have known him since he was barely walking. When I went to his grad party he gave me a huge hug and he and his mom said how much baseball had a positive impact on him and said I was a big influence on him in general. Totally caught me off guard because in no way am I Norman Dale. Not at all.

I will be the first one to say I don't have any special skills, I'm no Kirk Ferentz...not even in the same solar system...and I didn't do anything that I didn't learn myself from my own playing experience. I was just a youth and HS baseball coach and not a standout one at that if I'm honest with myself. Never treated him different or anything like that. But baseball was his thing and I think he liked having the same coach for 13 or whatever years. Something about it was a bright spot for him. He didn't have a dad growing up and maybe it was just me being the guy who showed him how to catch a ball and swing a bat who knows? Bottom line is as adults we get oblivious to the fact that these are young guys that are being shaped to whatever degree by the people in their lives. It can either be a good experience or a bad one, myself I was lucky to have coaches growing up I loved playing for. My HS coach I'd take a bullet for right this minute and I'm not exaggerating.

Also in full disclosure there are a couple kids I know who didn't like me as a coach and their parents didn't either. It happens. As long as you do everything the same for every kid and hold every kid to the same standards that's all you can do. Luckily I feel there's way more good experiences than those few less-good ones.

KF is obviously a great guy to have in your corner and whatever he's doing with these guys he's damn good at it. That's awesome.
Nailed it! I look back at my high school coaches and have to say that their impact on me was huge. Specifically my baseball coach. The life lessons I learned along with the game itself were things I carry and passed on to my own kids. In a day where wins and losses are prioritized over character building, many don't value having a quality human being coaching or teaching our young people.

It's real easy to get caught up in the love for KF, and let's be honest, if he did not have some measured success in the wins and losses, he would be a "great guy but bad coach". We all want our Hawkeyes to win, and I take losses just as hard as anyone, but I try to take a step back knowing KF wants to win and see his guys succeed worse than anyone. Each kid that straps it on for the black and gold does as well.

There comes that day when our sports career ends. As does every player that plays under KF. I always know that most of these guys are going to move forward and become a great father, person and etc. Again, I am biased, but knowing KF has built a darn good program and building even better young men, I know I've been blessed to watch it the last 27 years. Respect. Gratitude. And pure class.
 


Nailed it! I look back at my high school coaches and have to say that their impact on me was huge. Specifically my baseball coach. The life lessons I learned along with the game itself were things I carry and passed on to my own kids. In a day where wins and losses are prioritized over character building, many don't value having a quality human being coaching or teaching our young people.
Be grateful you had good coaches and mentors, because not everyone on here has had that experience. My coaches in high school were horrible, self-centered and one very abusive. Our football/basketball coach (since retired) has been arrested multiple times (drugs and drinking) recently and we all knew the kind of shit he was into over the last 30-40 years. Sleeping with female students as well... That S.O.B. was inducted into the Iowa Coaches Hall of Fame too. Makes my blood boil.

I know some of us older guys grew up in a time where coaches were allowed a lot more leeway and in turn got away with it easier than coaches can now, but I'm somewhat happy to see his life fall apart after what he's done.
 


Be grateful you had good coaches and mentors, because not everyone on here has had that experience. My coaches in high school were horrible, self-centered and one very abusive. Our football/basketball coach (since retired) has been arrested multiple times (drugs and drinking) recently and we all knew the kind of shit he was into over the last 30-40 years. Sleeping with female students as well... That S.O.B. was inducted into the Iowa Coaches Hall of Fame too. Makes my blood boil.

I know some of us older guys grew up in a time where coaches were allowed a lot more leeway and in turn got away with it easier than coaches can now, but I'm somewhat happy to see his life fall apart after what he's done.
This is a fair point. I had a couple asshole assistant coaches in football. I remember one ego maniac picked up a kid and threw him to the ground because the kid questioned the coach. What was the kid supposed to do, fight his coach. Think how guys like Bob Knight and Bear Bryant were celebrated? They were assholes who sometimes physically endangered their players.

Things have changed a lot and that shit doesn't fly anymore.

With an exception or two, every coach I had in high school and college was a good person and was genuinely interested in their players becoming better people. There are assholes in every profession. Coaching is no different.
 


I particularly thought the Spencer Petras story was rather interesting. I didn't realize he got hurt at Utah State than Ferentz invited him back to the Iowa Pro Day after. In addition had Iowa's sports medicine operate on him and Petras worked out at the Iowa facilities. Wow!
 


Be grateful you had good coaches and mentors, because not everyone on here has had that experience. My coaches in high school were horrible, self-centered and one very abusive. Our football/basketball coach (since retired) has been arrested multiple times (drugs and drinking) recently and we all knew the kind of shit he was into over the last 30-40 years. Sleeping with female students as well... That S.O.B. was inducted into the Iowa Coaches Hall of Fame too. Makes my blood boil.

I know some of us older guys grew up in a time where coaches were allowed a lot more leeway and in turn got away with it easier than coaches can now, but I'm somewhat happy to see his life fall apart after what he's done.
I had one coach in HS I didn't like and that was my freshman year in baseball. He wasn't a baseball guy and even as a 13 year old I could tell he was only in it for the summer money since he was a teacher. He wasn't a POS or into bad stuff, and was actually a pretty nice guy. Just lazy for the most part as a coach and didn't care very much if we won or lost. Luckily after my freshman year he quit and another teacher who had sniffed the minors with his brother took over. We went from scheduling like 15 games my freshman season to playing 38, 39, and 38 the rest of the years I was there. Senior season we made state. We played in tournaments every weekend and we all (except for a couple guys) loved it. All the non-conference games he scheduled on his own were against better schools than us with better pitching. We lost a bunch of games but by the end of each of those three years we had all been through the trenches and were like brothers. And also by the end of the year we were playing as a single unit and started winning a lot more than we lost. I still hold that to be the most important thing a team can do is just play a lot of baseball. There's no replacement you can get in the cage or practicing. It was great.

Our coach had grown up poor which also made things better (for me at least). He didn't give two shits about whether you had your own bat, what kind of gear you had, that was all bullshit to him. He told us he and his brother were 5 years apart and shared a glove all the way through HS. One would get done with a JV game or whatever and give it to the other. That meant a ton to me because we had some rich kids with brand new cleats, bats, and gear every year. I got one pair of cleats as a freshman which was a huge purchase for my family and I wore 'em for 3 years and bought new ones myself my senior year. This coach of ours and his brother had both had less than I did and got drafted/sniffed the minors. That told me there was nothing stopping me from playing in college if I wanted other than me. Absolute great human being and I can't imagine I'd have continued to love baseball as much if I had the first guy all 4 years.

I remember one funny story where we had a kid sucking hind tit in BP (off the machine) one day and started making comments about how he didn't have his bat. Our coach didn't say a word, went straight to the dugout and got the shittiest, oldest and faded bat he could find. I still remember it was one of those older than the hills Eastons with faded green logos on it. Had the old torn up rubber grip that was like bicycle inner tube material...some of you guys may remember those. He had the kid who was bitching feed the machine to him and he proceeded to hit nuke after nuke after nuke over the RF fence (he was a lefty) and a couple went into the town swimming pool which was right there at the time. Guy was pushing 50 years old. Then he puts the bat down and we continued on without anyone saying a word. LOL
 


I particularly thought the Spencer Petras story was rather interesting. I didn't realize he got hurt at Utah State than Ferentz invited him back to the Iowa Pro Day after. In addition had Iowa's sports medicine operate on him and Petras worked out at the Iowa facilities. Wow!
I'm pretty sure as long as you leave on good terms you're part of the family for life. Which is how it should be. You go to war for those coaches, and Spence had WAY more than his share of mud slung on him from his own supposed fans. That's worth something to me. Getting booed by tens of thousands of people wearing the Tigerhawk on their hoodies can't feel good.
 


Be grateful you had good coaches and mentors, because not everyone on here has had that experience. My coaches in high school were horrible, self-centered and one very abusive. Our football/basketball coach (since retired) has been arrested multiple times (drugs and drinking) recently and we all knew the kind of shit he was into over the last 30-40 years. Sleeping with female students as well... That S.O.B. was inducted into the Iowa Coaches Hall of Fame too. Makes my blood boil.

I know some of us older guys grew up in a time where coaches were allowed a lot more leeway and in turn got away with it easier than coaches can now, but I'm somewhat happy to see his life fall apart after what he's done.
That's so horrible to hear. I agree, I was blessed and grateful. You hear stories of young athletes quitting and walking away from sports because of a bad coach. It's terrible. Having positive memories and moments that help shape who you are so important to a young person. And the negative ones, impact you as well.

I have a lot of respect for most that are willing to coach or even officiate games. I'm the parent that does not second guess my son's coaches (most of the time lol). I tend to be the parent that sits down the first or third base line almost in the outfield and just watch the game. I don't interfere or say anything to my son during the game. I've told him as much if he wants to discuss AB's or etc. it can wait until after the game.

Until then, his attention should be on the game and what the coach is saying. I see way too much meddling and parents who are right up by the dugout throwing their two cents in.
 




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