He wasn't on staff, but they allowed him to be around and involved until he was arrested last November. So for 14+ years he was still involved with the football program and PSU.
Miller: The Big Ten's B1G Dilemma: What to Do With Penn State?
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He wasn't on staff, but they allowed him to be around and involved until he was arrested last November. So for 14+ years he was still involved with the football program and PSU.
Yeah, but it makes sense to turn it in in 2001. That would save the program more than covering it up and having it revealed later. Wouldn't it? I mean if Paterno gets the info from McQueary, calls the cops right then. JoePa is the hero once again and would be praised for the fact he went straight to the police. No damage done to Paterno or football. They could rail on Sandusky and burn him at the stake. By hiding info it was only worse for the program.
its only worse if they get caught. when people cover stuff up, the plan is to not get caught
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Scorpio79
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Of course. But they didn't think enough about their actions; they made hasty--and dreadfully wrong--decisions, and once they started down that path, they had to keep it quiet. Now they're going to pay the price for their bad decisions and subsequent crimes (cover up).
All of this was perpetrated under the banner of psu football.
It's right there in the report. Read it.
The problem as I stated before is that they knew about a 1998 incident, but did nothing, that would clearly come to light after the 2001 incident, right? Instead of contact the police JoePa said (straight from the report) "You did what you HAD to do. It is my job now to figure out what we WANT to do."
racerhawk
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Exactly. The horrible irony is that while they were trying to protect the brand image of PSU football, they nuked it beyond recognition. They destroyed the PSU football brand image, which had arguably the best reputation in all of football, to the worst.
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Scorpio79
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It has also been reported frequently that everyone associated with the psu football program had heard a "jerry story" or two. Assistant coaches, wives of coaches, school administrators. It seems apparent that "everyone" knew about this monster, and no one had the huevos to step up and say/do anything because they feared king joe and his power. It was a top-down culture, and king joe was at the top, calling the shots. Again, it's all right there in the report.
Im sorry, but that is a stupid excuse to say that nobody turned it in because they were scared of Paterno. What was Paterno going to do if they turned in a child molestor? Fire them? yeah right.
They'll have to stretch it as far as they can to find a NCAA bylaw or rule that was broken. Listening to former people involved with the NCAA and rules compliance it is doubtful that they'll be able to do anything, but they'll sure try their best to get it to fly. I'm sure most outside of PSU want it to happen, but don't be shocked either way. I'd rather see the lawsuits and DOE do it's damage.
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Scorpio79
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read the freakin' report, david
This regime tried to get rid of JoePa in the early 2000's. How did that work out? If not for this he probably would have coached until he died on the field.
A NON FUNCTIONING COMPLIANCE DEPT IS A BROKEN RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PSU basically had Spongebob running around as its compliance director.
The rule PSU broke is...........a non functioning compliance dept.
Say it with me now....the rule PSU broke is.....a non functioning compliance dept.
I did. The whole thing.
So are you saying that the others don't bear the same responsibility as paterno?
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Scorpio79
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maybe you should read it again, and pay extra-special close attention to pages 14-16.
tweeterhawk
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You are wrong here. A compliance department for NCAA rules is not an issue discussed in the report. They discuss compliance for the Clery Act which is not about NCAA rules. They didn't properly train and enforce the Clery Act. That is where they weren't in compliance.
Now, there are no rules that PSU broke. What the NCAA is going to try to do is say that what they did violates their consitution and principles in their bylaws because they can use the broad language that is written like ethical conduct and the like because specific rules weren't broken. It is stretch but it is a stretch they are going to try and make work because of the ground swell of people calling for action.
