Miller: The Big Ten's B1G Dilemma: What to Do With Penn State?

The report yesterday crystalized the scandal attaching 4 names and faces to it. This is actually helpful for PSU. Those 4 will get hammered,and if alive,be sent to prison. That cuts out the cancer,and gives the NCAA and the Big Ten a way out of a sticky situation.

The report was never going to exonerate the people identified as being involved, i.e. Spanier, Schultz, Curley, and Paterno. I could have told you from the begining that they were going to be harsh on all of these people and the University, but most importantly they were going to put the majority of the blame on these 4 people. Why? because these four people are gone. They could say yeah, there are definitely some things we need to change in our system that we didn't have in place, and we will make this university safer and put in place a better system for reporting crimes. It was very calculated. As you said, they want to be able to take it to NCAA and BIG Ten and say see it was just these people, they are gone and we are going to improve our University with these policies laid out in the report.
 
No competitive advantage gained? One could argue that there was or at least to stay competitive. Why was this covered up? To minimize or prevent bad publicity. I know they have a great recruiting class coming in, but you never know what would have happened in 1998 or 2001 if this would have came out, especially since Sandusky was still around coaching in 1998. It could have been completely different. They did this to maintain success in the football program.

A very small group of men did this to protect one of their fellow good ol' boys. This had nothing to do with maintaining success in the football program. If a coach, 3 years retired gets, busted for sexual molestation in 2001, you really think that's going to effect their on field results? If this was about maintaining football success why was Sandusky ever asked to stop coaching? The dude was a hell of a defensive coach.
 
A very small group of men did this to protect one of their fellow good ol' boys. This had nothing to do with maintaining success in the football program. If a coach, 3 years retired gets, busted for sexual molestation in 2001, you really think that's going to effect their on field results? If this was about maintaining football success why was Sandusky ever asked to stop coaching? The dude was a hell of a defensive coach.

The correct response would be to announce that football will not be played at Happy Valley for the foreseeable future. No other response will cut the mustard. No amount of money paid to the victims' families will suffice. An end to football at Penn State for the time being will show that the university is serious about cleaning up its shattered reputation.
Want to hear the irony of ironies? Had university boosters been found guilty of lavishing cash payments and fancy cars on football recruits over a 14-year period, the program would have faced harsh penalties, maybe even a death penalty similar to the one handed down to the SMU Mustangs in 1987. But because it was only a former defensive coordinator preying upon children on school property while administrators turned a blind eye, football could actually go on as scheduled this fall at Penn State.
Really?
That would be the worst possible message to send to these victims and their families. Penn State doesn't deserve college football after what's happened. The NCAA has never been known for its quickness in determining suitable punishments, but the university could save us all some time by announcing that football won't be played this year.
And if a person out there believes that the government would be overstepping its bounds if it got involved here, take a deep breath and recall the millions spent to prosecute Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Lance Armstrong on charges that they used performance-enhancing drugs. That's an issue that appears downright trivial when juxtaposed against the atrocities Sandusky committed while others did nothing to stop him.
Now, if Penn State's football program is really the bastion of integrity and forthrightness it has always purported to be, then the people on that campus who still believe in honor and truth will have no problem closing down the stadium. That Sept. 1 season opener against Ohio University cannot happen.
As for the fans who would be hurt by not seeing Penn State play football this fall: Go spend some time with Sandusky's victims. Those people know real pain, a pain much bigger than the loss of a football season.
Some things are more important than the games we love.
Penn State football program should be shut down

IT'S A F***ING GAME!
 
A very small group of men did this to protect one of their fellow good ol' boys. This had nothing to do with maintaining success in the football program. If a coach, 3 years retired gets, busted for sexual molestation in 2001, you really think that's going to effect their on field results? If this was about maintaining football success why was Sandusky ever asked to stop coaching? The dude was a hell of a defensive coach.

Wrong. The cover-up was all about protecting the football program from negative publicity and possible money-draining lawsuits. King Joe and his lackeys spanier, curley, and schulz did what they had to do to protect the kingdom and the gold mine.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/07/12/freeh.report.pdf
 
A very small group of men did this to protect one of their fellow good ol' boys. This had nothing to do with maintaining success in the football program. If a coach, 3 years retired gets, busted for sexual molestation in 2001, you really think that's going to effect their on field results? If this was about maintaining football success why was Sandusky ever asked to stop coaching? The dude was a hell of a defensive coach.

OH MY GOD
 

LOL is the opinion of some hack newspaper columinst supposed to change my mind? He also should probably do some fact checking as the charges against Bonds and Clemens were never for using performance enhancing drugs, they were for perjury. And I'm all for bringing charges against the people who were involved, so if the federal government wants to do it, great, they deserve it.

Also, the comparison to SMU is just lazy, these cases aren't related in the slightest.
 
LOL is the opinion of some hack newspaper columinst supposed to change my mind? He also should probably do some fact checking as the charges against Bonds and Clemens were never for using performance enhancing drugs, they were for perjury. And I'm all for bringing charges against the people who were involved, so if the federal government wants to do it, great, they deserve it.

Also, the comparison to SMU is just lazy, these cases aren't related in the slightest.

Start on page 14 at "FINDINGS" and read carefully and absorb fully. Pay special attention to the language on page 16.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/07/12/freeh.report.pdf

The doc is copy-protected, so I can't paste the section here, but read from pg 14 through 16.
 
I know one thing. All Universities around the country are making sure they have people trained regarding the Clery Act and have proper procedures in place.
 
A very small group of men did this to protect one of their fellow good ol' boys. This had nothing to do with maintaining success in the football program. If a coach, 3 years retired gets, busted for sexual molestation in 2001, you really think that's going to effect their on field results? If this was about maintaining football success why was Sandusky ever asked to stop coaching? The dude was a hell of a defensive coach.


What? Are you serious? If this was about protecting Sandusky, like you say, then why did they tell him he was no longer the coach-in-waiting, then pretty much force him out. This was all done to protect PSU football and its brand name. They did everything they could to prevent this from making it to the public which included allowing Sandusky to stick around. They were more worried about themselves and the University, not the victims or Sandusky.
 
Already read it bud, like I said it was a very small group of good ol' boys trying to look out for another one of them.

No, wrong again. They were protecting the goose that laid the golden egg, the football program. Sandusky is virtually irrelevant; if it wasn't him that they covered up, it would have (and might have) been something/someone else.
They were driven by avarice and drunk with power.
 
What? Are you serious? If this was about protecting Sandusky, like you say, then why did they tell him he was no longer the coach-in-waiting, then pretty much force him out. This was all done to protect PSU football and its brand name. They did everything they could to prevent this from making it to the public which included allowing Sandusky to stick around. They were more worried about themselves and the University, not the victims or Sandusky.

EXACTLY.
 
What? Are you serious? If this was about protecting Sandusky, like you say, then why did they tell him he was no longer the coach-in-waiting, then pretty much force him out. This was all done to protect PSU football and its brand name. They did everything they could to prevent this from making it to the public which included allowing Sandusky to stick around. They were more worried about themselves and the University, not the victims or Sandusky.

The one thing for me I have a hard time wrapping my head around is that it was done to protect football. I know people don't think clearly sometimes in bad situations but wouldn't it be better for the University and the football program to simply turn information over to the authorities in 2001? Any analysis of risk/reward done by these guys would have led them to telling authorities what McQueary told them. It just really doesn't make sense.

Seems like it was more covering their own ***** then covering for football. Just like the Janitors were trying to cover their own ***** as well. None of them wanted to lose their jobs.
 
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You are, literally, the only person on the planet that thinks this.
But I'm sure the rest of us are wrong
LOL

Alright man, we'll see when the punishments come down. When the Penn St football program gets the death penalty you can come back and let me know I'm wrong LOL.
 
The one thing for me I have a hard time wrapping my head around is that it was done to protect football. I know people don't think clearly sometimes in bad situations but wouldn't it be better for the University and the football program to simply turn information over to the authorities in 2001? Any analysis of risk/reward done by these guys would have led them to telling authorities what McQueary told them. It just really doesn't make sense.

One might think that. But all 4 knew about an incident in 1998, but nothing was done. If not then, then never was their motto.
 
No, wrong again. They were protecting the goose that laid the golden egg, the football program. Sandusky is virtually irrelevant; if it wasn't him that they covered up, it would have (and might have) been something/someone else.
They were driven by avarice and drunk with power.

If it was all about the football program, then wouldn't they have wanted to keep Sandusky on the staff?
 
Of course it doesn't make sense, David. Because it's unbelievably corrupt, deviate, illegal, and immoral behavior, conducted over a breathtakingly long period of time. It's unprecedented.
To those who are having difficulty processing this: it happened, and it happened all because of THE ALMIGHTY FOOTBALL PROGRAM and the money and prestige and power that the program awarded to these men and many others.
 
Alright man, we'll see when the punishments come down. When the Penn St football program gets the death penalty you can come back and let me know I'm wrong LOL.

Just because they were trying to save their names, the university and its livelihood in football, doesn't necessarily give the NCAA jurisdiction to punish PSU.
 
If it was all about the football program, then wouldn't they have wanted to keep Sandusky on the staff?

No. They wanted to make him go away quietly and conceal the reason why he "retired". That's why it's called a cover-up.
They wanted NOTHING to ripple the waters of their $acred Cow, the football program...and the riches and fame that came along with it.
 

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