JonDMiller
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I don't see the Big Ten being the entity that gives PSU a TV ban. That would punish PSU's B1G opponents as their games would not be watchable unless ESPN or ABC picked them up.
Miller: The Big Ten's B1G Dilemma: What to Do With Penn State?
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hawkeyebob62
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Do you see B1G kicking them out entirely?
hawkeyebob62
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Sad in and of itself.
But...I have a hard time believing Jay didn't know IF we take the report at face value. He HAD to know. Which...in a sense...makes it WORSE that he seems to be the family spokesperson right now.
JonDMiller
Publisher/Founder
If I had to bet one way or another RIGHT NOW, I'd say they don't boot them. I think there is plenty of evidence there to totally support booting them. But, that's not an easy thing to do. I have no idea how contracts are worded, both in their membership, TV revenue entanglements, etc. Complicated.
Never thought about that, hopefully Joe did not drag his children into this by discussing it with them, but in Jay's case you are probably right, how could he not know.
hawkeyebob62
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As someone else pointed out, the NCAA can't give them the death penalty. While it went on for however many years, there are no previous violations by PSU.
I am starting to think the B1G has no choice BUT to boot them.
LOL at anyone who thinks the B10 will seriously consider kicking Penn St out of the B10. I have a feeling people will be shocked at how quickly Penn St recovers. Penn St will come down hard on themselves, probably a cpl year bowl ban, take away some scholarships, big charitable donation. Bill O'Brien will be the sacrificial lamb of a football coach for 3 years. Run a squeaky clean program then get the boot in 3-4 years when the sanctions expire and it's an elite job again.
hawkfan1319
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This. You people are insane to think they will be kicked out and given the death penalty.
Hawkeye101
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Here is what the B1G should spend some time thinking about:
PSU as an entity knew what was happening and elected to cover it up, live in denial, etc. Rather than standing up for what was right, they decided to bend to the big pressures of being what they thought Penn State was. The football powerhouse.
The B1G needs to think about what message it sends if they choose to bend to the pressures of B1G football and what they think it is all about. If the B1G chooses to take no action, how are they any different from PSU (in terms of bowing to pressure and choosing to ignore the reality).
PSU as an entity knew what was happening and elected to cover it up, live in denial, etc. Rather than standing up for what was right, they decided to bend to the big pressures of being what they thought Penn State was. The football powerhouse.
The B1G needs to think about what message it sends if they choose to bend to the pressures of B1G football and what they think it is all about. If the B1G chooses to take no action, how are they any different from PSU (in terms of bowing to pressure and choosing to ignore the reality).
ThunderHawk
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If Penn State has the gall to send its football team to Iowa City this season, we should all, every one of us, turn our backs in dead silence when they take the field.
Not as disrespect towards the current players or coaches, but as a symbol of our collective disgust towards that university for still, STILL not getting it. Your football program and administration conspired to conceal child rape for 14 years, Penn State. You don't get to play football in 2012.
Not as disrespect towards the current players or coaches, but as a symbol of our collective disgust towards that university for still, STILL not getting it. Your football program and administration conspired to conceal child rape for 14 years, Penn State. You don't get to play football in 2012.
The report yesterday crystalized the scandal attaching 4 names and faces to it. This is actually helpful for PSU. Those 4 will get hammered,and if alive,be sent to prison. That cuts out the cancer,and gives the NCAA and the Big Ten a way out of a sticky situation.
I could see a bowl ban, and loss of schollys from the NCAA.
The Big Ten will yield to the NCAA.
If the NCAA starts pursuing all criminals in athletic programs with sanctions vs the schools, it will never come up for air. Right now, at Marquette, the bb program is involved in a rape scandal of its own,where the athletic dept tried to contain a rape allegation to the campus police,and allowed some bb players to get a pass of sorts, only to have one of them have another assault allegation later.
No competitive edge gained in either the MU or PSU case, as laid out by NCAA rules.
Huge settlements will be paid,and must be paid for,which means PSU football must continue to generate cash. The gnashing and ranting of the media is interesting. They are decrying the culture of power and sway of college football programs like PSU,after screaming and moaning that college football must have a playoff to reap more money and make those programs even more powerful.
The more the money there is in college football,the more powerful it becomes on the campus.
Every single writer like Dan Wetzel who ranted about the need for a playoff,with all the money left on the table....they should stop the hypocrisy in the Paterno scandal. They are advocating for Nick Saban to become king of the world with the playoffs in place....while screaming about JoePa being King of the World. Cannot have it both ways.
The advocates of the playoffs always asked for one good reason to stay with the stodgy old system, when a sexy new money machine beckoned...well,here is one...the arms race continues to ramp up,creating more cultural insularity,with more money coming into the sport.
I,for one, say we need to scrap the playoff,and de-emphasize this obsession with finding a single true champ...lower the volume,it is out of control.
ssckelley
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I like this, why fire them up by booing at them? Just turn our backs on them and say nothing.
I'm personally going to go to State College and find some janitors and turn my back on them in silence to show my disgust for their inaction.
ThunderHawk
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Maybe you can tongue Jo Pa's statue while you're at it, you filthy apologist.
LOL I'm not an apologist. I just have enough common sense to be able to laugh at all these over the top punishment expectations. People expecting the death penalty or Penn St to be kicked out of the B10 are going to be very disappointed.
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I agree with this. anyone who thinks they can rank raping children and practicing to much is foolish. smart people realize they are one in the same and both should probably be frowned upon
tweeterhawk
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The world IS watching, and that, as much as anything, will drive whether these two largely ineffective organizations act on the evil that went down and was covered up in Happy Valley.
Shame on both of them if they don't.
hawkfan1319
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Wow thunder are we going to see you in the news with a bomb strapped to your chest at Penn State campus? This is getting a bit ridiculous and I see you would probably be interested in a lynch mob?
No competitive advantage gained? One could argue that there was or at least to stay competitive. Why was this covered up? To minimize or prevent bad publicity. I know they have a great recruiting class coming in, but you never know what would have happened in 1998 or 2001 if this would have came out, especially since Sandusky was still around coaching in 1998. It could have been completely different. They did this to maintain success in the football program.
JonDMiller
Publisher/Founder
Thunder, you may be on to something. When PSU takes the field this year when they are on the road, B1G crowds should not boo, not make a sound...nothing. Silence, in honor of the victims
