Kinnick Stadium Seating

deanvogs said:
Greisbaum was FIRED for allegedly being verbally abusive to her players. They had complaints about a coach, investigate them and then fired her because of the findings. That is the exact OPPOSITE of Penn St.

You are also grasping at straws with Rhabdo. Did you even listen to Chad's interview of Doyle? He asked him about the incident, they talked about it. Iowa learned from it and has a totally different system now in place with very advanced technology to help with student athletes health. Once again, just the opposite of sweep it under the rug like Penn St. did. They look at the incident and said, we will never let this happen again, and take step to make sure that is the case.
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If I injure several people on my job or cost the company $6.5 million, I get fired. That's great that they've put steps in place to make sure rhabdo doesn't happen again, but no way in hell should Doyle have kept his job and no way in hell should Barta have kept his job. :)
 
tksirius said:
If I injure several people on my job or cost the company $6.5 million, I get fired. That's great that they've put steps in place to make sure rhabdo doesn't happen again, but no way in hell should Doyle have kept his job and no way in hell should Barta have kept his job. :)
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I don't disagree with any of this. I disagreed with @Joshbrown insane ramblings and comparisons of Rhabdo and firing of a coach to ignoring and covering up sexual crimes at Penn St.
 
hawkcub42 said:
No official start time but hear a lot of people predicting a night game. I prefer the side view. End zone seats the depth perception messes me up. But that's for any stadium. But closest to the field and 50 as you can afford is a good rule. Sat in row 76 last year on the 50 for the MI game. Wasn't bad. My ST seats are 30 rows up on the 5. Love these. Really the only bad seat I had was around 10 years ago was in the south end zone right below the speaker. My head was ringing the whole ride home. Hope you have fun. Love taking road trips.
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I hate sitting in the end zone. Rather be at the very top on the side if had to choose.
 
tksirius said:
If I injure several people on my job or cost the company $6.5 million, I get fired. That's great that they've put steps in place to make sure rhabdo doesn't happen again, but no way in hell should Doyle have kept his job and no way in hell should Barta have kept his job. :)
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Seriously, it was one isolated incident. Nobody knows for sure what triggered it with so many getting affected. It could have been a bad mixture of electrolytes in the Gatorade for all we know.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
Seriously, it was one isolated incident. Nobody knows for sure what triggered it with so many getting affected. It could have been a bad mixture of electrolytes in the Gatorade for all we know.
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Gatorade? Seriously? The fact that it affected multiple players is a nexus connecting the training staff, not the other way around. Smh
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
The fact a bunch were out boozing it up that week sorta connects the players, too.
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Chris Doyle and his staff have changed procedures to assure that it doesn't happen again but they didn't do anything wrong. It's all on the players. Are you for real?
 
tksirius said:
Chris Doyle and his staff have changed procedures to assure that it doesn't happen again but they didn't do anything wrong. It's all on the players. Are you for real?
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Where did I say it was "all" on the players? Did you not read the f-ing post? Are YOU for real? C'mon, man, you know damn well they had run the very same workout for ten-plus years.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
Where did I say it was "all" on the players? Did you not read the f-ing post? Are YOU for real? C'mon, man, you know damn well they had run the very same workout for ten-plus years.
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No, I actually don't know that and neither do you. Stay calm my friend.
 
tksirius said:
No, I actually don't know that and neither do you. Stay calm my friend.
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So when dozens of players, former players and coaches all said they had run the workout for ten-plus years, you didn't believe them? Fair enough. Difference of opinion, then...
 
tksirius said:
Gatorade? Seriously? The fact that it affected multiple players is a nexus connecting the training staff, not the other way around. Smh
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I've toured the new facility and tasted their energy drink or what they replenish with. It's not just Gatorade or Powerade. They add to their drink with their own formula. I could have sworn they added electrolytes to the drink. I just remember it tasting like very salty Gatorade. Anyway, can't even say that it is that. All I'm saying it probably was something systemic that caused all of them to have the same issues that particular day. We've never heard of there being any problem prior to that and I'm pretty sure they did the same or equivalent workouts. There was some common denominator that day. That's all I'm just pointing out.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
Where did I say it was "all" on the players? Did you not read the f-ing post? Are YOU for real? C'mon, man, you know damn well they had run the very same workout for ten-plus years.
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No crap. It was an isolated incident caused by some unknown or nonproven obscure thing that just hit the perfect formula. Wasn't just the workout. To have happen to all proves there was some common trigger between all of them. They all didn't just overwork that hard.
 
jesterapparel said:
I have 2-4 tickets 1st row side line of endzone. 150 each. Probably get on tv every time iowa scores......:) message me if interested.
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Did you say get on TV ?

these guys are interested.

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I think the guys got dehydrated with their workouts and at the same time consumed extra electrolytes in their amped up Gatorade. It's the only logical explanation with 13 of them getting afflicted with same exact condition at the same exact time. See the last sentence in the link below. People need to understand the body and physiology.

This is my story and I'm sticking with it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1573339
 
Ok, so let's say it was an electrolyte issue. Either the training staff screwed up or the "electrolyte substance" manufacturrer has to pay up. Maybe a way to get back that $6.5 million?
 
There's always the factor that rhabdo has occurred in the past resulting from these workouts, but wasn't properly identified or treated at that time....


Conditioning group says Iowa misused exercise in football case

(Jay Hoffman, president of the board for the National Strength and Conditioning Association, also said Iowa's football strength and conditioning staff misinterpreted the findings of a study that they claimed supported their use of the workout to increase strength during the first days of offseason conditioning.

"This workout is not a common workout and has no scientific basis to be used to train college athletes," Hoffman said in a statement.)

https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spo...igten/2011-03-28-iowa-football-hospital_N.htm
 
tksirius said:
Ok, so let's say it was an electrolyte issue. Either the training staff screwed up or the "electrolyte substance" manufacturrer has to pay up. Maybe a way to get back that $6.5 million?
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Not disagreeing here. Somebody either made a bad calculation or mixed the drink wrong. Not sure. The perfect storm happened with the right formula is my guess. Hopefully a one fluke thing. But, to support your point, yes, I think the Iowa training staff had a pretty intense workout regimen which played a part in the role.
 
BTW, myself and a couple of others had some super dark urine and extreme soreness in high school after doing a somewhat similar squat workout. Of course, had no clue of rhabdo then and no doctor visit happened. We all talked about it and that's where it ended, so I find it difficult to believe this hadn't occurred with this workout before this case was made public. Just my opinion.
 
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