KF done after this yr?
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That's what I'm afraid of... He said on his radio show last night he's not intending to retire pretty much. I'll believe it once he's made the OC hire though and is still on past signing day. He can say whatever he wants right now. There's aways to go yet.
SCHawkeye2
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Does Kirk have any incentive to bring in someone who could succeed with what we have and make Brian look even more incompetent?
InGoodCo
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What else is he going to say? The interim AD just dropped a nuclear bomb in the middle of a season where his team still has 4 games to go and controls it's own destiny to win a division title. If he hasn't already lost the team, he's definitely lost their focus, which is why he doesn't operate that way. It appears there are cracks in the infrastructure. I'll be shocked if it doesn't have an impact on how this season ends but if there is a coach that is good at "circling the wagons", it's Kirk. Even if he wants this to be it, or even if it was discussed that this is it, announcing that now throws way more sticks in the fire.... you want that shit to be stomped out.
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InGoodCo
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If his kid can't get him to change his philosophy and ideals on offense, I have no confidence that anyone else can, which is why I've said all along, you can put a donkey in that spot... and Kirk doesn't want to run an offense that has high risk. I think if he could, he'd never throw the ball because he believes that gives Iowa the best chance to win ball games based on the make up of their team. This program has focused its recruiting on Defense. This program has focused it's recruiting on ST and being good in the trenches on both sides of the ball. That won't change, so, I wouldn't expect the offense to change at all unless you cut it off at the head.
I remember back when he hired BF for it that being one of the main hopes and dreams. If anyone could stand up to him and try and induce change it'd be him. I'd say 6 plus yrs is enough time to conclude that never happened... Hardly ever any shot plays on waste downs. Just overly conservative play calling 98% of the time with maybe 2 shot plays called during a game where they think they've 'set something up'. With zero hurry up O or 2 min O at all. Even when behind multiple scores in the 2nd half of games they play with zero urgency. It's wild and that's not been just a recent thing.
And I think what you mean by the make up of the team is the fact they don't have the athletes at the skill positions to just make plays and out athlete guys. Iowa can't out recruit OSU, PSU, Michigan etc for WRs, RBs and QBs they just can't. Iowa has to play bully ball and or break 1 or 2 big plays a game to compete. So long as the D and special teams can do what they do
InGoodCo
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Right. Iowa has always been pretty inept at WR right? Even the Fry days that was the case. I mean, off the top of my head, I can only think of a few standout WR's to ever play at Iowa from 1980 on. Tim Dwight, Danaan Hughes, DJK, McNutt, Kahlil Hill, Kevonte Martin Manley, Soloman, ISM????and even with that list, none of those guys were considered ELITE WR recruits. Iowa has always counted on building up and propping up local Iowa kids at the WR position... so who ever we get after Kirk, I don't have a TON of hope that Iowa will suddenly just become this air raid offense that throws the ball. Iowa isn't going to be a very good school that produces WR talent.... know who you are, the last 2 coaches did, will the next one? I hope so
MelroseHawkins
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Teddy
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I don't entirely disagree with the firing but the timing could not possibly have been worse. This move is a bully flexing her muscles. You make this move after the season.
Once she is known as the coach that chased off Ferentz and we, or you guys since I won't be here, see a steady diet of 4-6 wins this move will become much less popular. Do it mid-season? Humiliate the HC?
Create turmoil on an existing team and among the recruits. That does not bespeak much critical thought went into the manner of firing BF.
Objective: Eliminate BF. The strategic plan for doing so with the least damage nonexistent.
kicker22
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I don't see it as bully flexing muscles. I see it as someone in a position of power making a strategic decision that should have been done before she got there. By doing it at the bye week she allowed him to finish the season (not sure many Universities would have) and she gives the staff additional time to right the ship and focus on retainment.
IMO If she follows out the contract and pulled the plug in June it leaves the program in a worse position and makes her look even worse. What does the program gain by sitting on the matter until June like Barta schemed up? Not if she cut him loose, I think that creates a huge issue but by cutting the cord and keeping him around the remainder of the year.
I think you lack an understanding of Kirk's personality and mentality. He loves nothing more in life than:
* coaching football
* overcoming obstacles and tackling challenges
* proving his critics wrong.
Not necessarily in that order.
Related to each of those 3 things:
* He's getting paid a ton of bucks to do what he likes.
* Losing Brian is another obstacle, a challenge to overcome.
* Nobody thinks Iowa can compete in the expanded BTen.
He's staying. Book it.
hawkeye12345
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Kirk has $42m reasons to say what he did. His buyout is insane and due to his new contract he will be here for the next 6 years.
There isn’t a donor out there that is going to pony up $42m to pay the buyout and he knows it.
This is all about posturing and getting his golden parachute. It’ll be discounted but he’s not leaving without yet another big pay check.
There isn’t a donor out there that is going to pony up $42m to pay the buyout and he knows it.
This is all about posturing and getting his golden parachute. It’ll be discounted but he’s not leaving without yet another big pay check.
SCHawkeye2
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I suspect there was much more behind BG's decision than we know.
A couple posters on this board indicated that boosters were fed up and the continued embarrassment was having a real impact on retaining and recruiting talent.
If that is true, staying the course for the rest of the season may not have been the best option with regard to talent .
It seems better to provide clarity on the path forward sooner, rather than later.
A couple posters on this board indicated that boosters were fed up and the continued embarrassment was having a real impact on retaining and recruiting talent.
If that is true, staying the course for the rest of the season may not have been the best option with regard to talent .
It seems better to provide clarity on the path forward sooner, rather than later.
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thedukeofearl
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Kirk Ferentz affirms desire to continue coaching Iowa ‘until they tell me to sit down
Comment from The Athlete Article yesterday
Teddy
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A more subtle approach would be better. As is, the move shakes up the team, gives recruits an excuse to bail out, creates the public appearance of institutional instability which will particularly damage recruiting. No one knows who's going to be coaching.
Far better to have simply waited until the day after the bowl game. Tell KF that the donors won't support Brian, so you give KF a decision that doesn't have to be made right away, respects his right to choose his own coaches and the details are buried in word salad media presentations. Most coaching changes occur immediately following the final game, so there is no reason to wait for the contract to expire, just the season. Far less adverse fallout and it gives BF a chance to resign which is better than further insulting to the HC and humiliating his son.
I learned a lot in politics. Accomplishing one's objective with the least brutal method still accomplishes the objective. Keeping one's fingerprints off the murder weapon is very valuable. Blunt force is sometimes necessary but never preferable. That is the tactic of the bully, and bullies usually lack sophisticated thinking in other facets of life.
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thedukeofearl
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BILLYBOBSTEXAS
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I'm not so sure. He seems to be longing for a Barta return.Damn, Teddy, Most Excellent Post
The change had to happen. We are the worst offense in division one and it is embarrassing. We have a great university and then we have to live with this offensive performance and we don't even do anything about it? That is not our way. The timing is not the fault of the AD or the President. They were driven to the brink. A great new hire would speak volumes.
