The keyword is "subtle". This is suppose to be a thread about Wieskamp being an ESPN top 25 ranked recruit and you turn it into a Bohannon bashing. You try to imply as fact Iowa is NIT bound this coming season. You also brought Donovan Jackson into the discussion and proclaimed how much better he is than Bohannon. These are subtle digs on Iowa and praising ISU. Did you even congratulate or mentioned anything positive about Wieskamp being a top 25 recruit?
Joe Wieskamp No. 25 in ESPN's New Top 60 for '18
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Actually I didn't, I listed the players we offered before Bohannon and another poster singled him out and said we didn't offer him we did. I also said I would have taken the other players offered before him over Jackson so there wasn't really any praise there at all. Wieskamp is going to be a stud though, so are Connor and Patrick
Your first post on this thread. Already discrediting the ranking.
deanvogs
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Yeah, CyTwins is an idiot. He spouts all this crap, and I called him out, so he was forced to take the bet on his idiot ramblings, and predictably lost the bet. If Twins doesn't like Bohannon, you can mark it down in ink, he will be good. We also had some good ones about Pete Jok as well. I said he was gonna be a stud, he said he was crap.
ESPN recruiting isn't good and everyone knows that. All the other sites have him listed as a top recruit though too so it really doesn't matter. He's one of the best recruits in the country and I wouldn't be surprised if he's a McDonald's AA when it's all said and done.
deanvogs
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He is a Clown troll, and like I keep saying I'm about 90% certain it is CyTwins.
Your 2nd post in this thread about Joe wieskamp. Another dig on Iowa basketball. There is a trend here. I can do this all day but I rather not.
deanvogs
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Spot on Kwah. 5656 mistakenly posted the Clown narrative on Fran.......that he can't recruit out of state. I have never ever once heard an Iowa fan say this, but it is spewed non stop on CyClowntown.
Knight78
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Exactly. Let's not forget that in 2013 Iowa beat Kentucky in the NIT. Even the blue bloods don't make the NCAA every year.
Knight78
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Not necessarily favoring Verbal Commits, but they do list the ratings of other services. Each one lists the ratings for Scout, Rivals and ESPN as well as a composite rating of the three. Or did you just laugh off the site and not even look?
If by "beat," you mean "advanced further than," I'm with you ... but I'm pretty sure Kentucky lost to Robert morris or oral Roberts or some other tiny school in an empty gym. We didn't face them in the NIT that year.
(ok, I just looked it up. It was Robert morris.)
Umm, this height, athleticism, and most likely his inability to guard at the next level. Oh yeah, and his overall strength.
but he can shoot!
It's like you guys are picking a fight for the sake of just picking a fight. 5656 hasn't made horrible comments on here or even come off like a POS ISU troll.
The sell to get a major PG recruit was:
--open position that you can have the keys to drive for 4 years or less depending on if you're NBA ready
--if you like to get out there and run, the system is perfect for just that
--if you want a program that is in the B1G and has amazing facilities, Iowa is right up there
--if you want to play in a program that is going to be consistently good for years to come (and maybe even great) then pick Iowa
--want to play with a Top 50 Big? Oh yeah, you can with Tyler Cook.
Fran missed on getting his true PG badly. And to ignore this and think Boho is going to come in here and be what Charlie Moore, Xaiver Simpson etc. will most likely be for their future schools is short sighted. Those players are a different caliber from Boho.
Reasons why Boho isn't a 1PG for Iowa or any other B1G school?
--athleticism
--strength
--agility
--SIZE
His best attributes?
--Doesn't turn it over a ton
--Amazing shooter
There's no reason to oversell Boho unless you want to ride the Fran-wagon. Boho is what he is. Iowa missed out on all of their other options and he was a sure fire fall back. Sherm tweeted out some photos of practice this week and Boho literally looks like a 8th grader compared to the rest of the players featured in the photo.
But if you are trying to tell yourself he is what Iowa needed at the PG position in this class, you're nothing but a Grade-A homer.
He's taller than Moore isn't he? And why do you say his athleticism? Oh yea, he's white.
I don't think anyone has said that. I think the greater point is that Iowa ended up with a fall, fall, fall back option at PG when this was the perfect year to close a stud recruit at the position. I think it's pretty clear that Iowa needs more athletitism from that position. Maybe Williams will turn out to be a stud and won't need that Top 15 PG recruit.
But as recently as the past 60 days, Tyler Cook was tweeting Charlie Moore (with permission from the staff). And nearly every single Hawkeye Podcast, this site included, was begging for a better solution at the point guard position until Maishe Dailey was signed.
I just don't see how anyone can't understand that Boho was not brought here to start and be that star player alongside Cook that Moore or Simpson would have been from day one.
Because I've watched him play, read articles about him, and watched a lot of his videos that even as an arm chair QB with no coaching experience I can even tell? The same way, most people could tell that Fleming wasn't super athletic and wouldn't break through at this level? I
Or I can even quote an Iowa sports writer even saying it as well?"
http://www.thegazette.com/subject/s...hannon-named-2016-iowa-mr-basketball-20160315
"But Jordan worked even harder because he wasn’t quite as good an athlete.”
Best of luck with this one sir, I'm sitting this one out
I'm not arguing he's going to be as good as the top guys Fran missed on. I was saying he will more than likely fall somewhere in the middle. I also acknowledge that Bohannon seems to be turning out better than originally thought. By now Fran might be glad he missed on some guys. He might even rather have Bohannon than Moore. Something definitely happened there.
Also I understand a lot of what Hawk5656 is saying. He is just seeing the most negative possible outcome with everything iowa does have and he's assuming the best possible outcome for the players Fran missed on. Just the classic glass half empty way of thinking with every one of his posts.
