Iowa State Lost

[deanvogs]

You are the one with zero credibility! You offer zero reasoning, sources or points of conversation. I provided all three. He is an elite PG! Top 5? Yes! #1 in the eyes of some analysts? Yes! Clearly in the top 17. I posted th e Cousy finalists because your little buddy said he wasn't even top 20 because his stock had "fallen."

Guess he isn't top 5......Have you ever gotten anything correct ever? I'm thinking about taking that stupid Big12 vs B1G bet. Just because the Big12 always spits the bit in the NCAA, and you are always wrong.....to bad I can't trust you to pay, and too bad you are too chicken to back up your claims that Iowa would be worse this season.....it would be easy money, just like taking it from Fairfax.

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Bob Cousy Award 5 Finalists: T.J. McConnell (AZ), Tyus Jones (Duke), Kevin Pangos (Gonzaga), Delon Wright (Utah) & Fred VanVleet (Wichita).

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

Guess he isn't top 5......Have you ever gotten anything correct ever? I'm thinking about taking that stupid Big12 vs B1G bet. Just because the Big12 always spits the bit in the NCAA, and you are always wrong.....to bad I can't trust you to pay, and too bad you are too chicken to back up your claims that Iowa would be worse this season.....it would be easy money, just like taking it from Fairfax.

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Bob Cousy Award 5 Finalists: T.J. McConnell (AZ), Tyus Jones (Duke), Kevin Pangos (Gonzaga), Delon Wright (Utah) & Fred VanVleet (Wichita).

I could be wrong but I don't see Monte on there. Surely the best pg in the country at least made 1st team All B12 though, right?

 

[deanvogs]

I could be wrong but I don't see Monte on there. Surely the best pg in the country at least made 1st team All B12 though, right?

Everyone knows that Staten is the best PG in the country and Morris is the 2nd best.....Oh wait, neither made the Cousey list???
CONSPRIACY Big12 IS SCREWING ISU!!!! NBA IS SCREWING KANE!!!! MORRIS IS TOP PG IN COUNTRY!!!! DERP!!!!!

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

Everyone knows that Staten is the best PG in the country and Morris is the 2nd best.....Oh wait, neither made the Cousey list???
CONSPRIACY Big12 IS SCREWING ISU!!!! NBA IS SCREWING KANE!!!! MORRIS IS TOP PG IN COUNTRY!!!! DERP!!!!!

I'm sure it's just carry over from the NBA blackballing Kane to get back at Fred for Royce White. Kane>Westbrook.

 

[deanvogs]

I'm sure it's just carry over from the NBA blackballing Kane to get back at Fred for Royce White. Kane>Westbrook.

Why do Clown fans have to be soooo pathetic? I mean Kane was a nice college player his Sr. year, why pretend he is more than he was?? Morris is a kid who will play in the NBA, but why pretend he is a top 5 kid now?? It is beyond stupid, and if they just get one analysts to say crap like that, they lick his boots, and say that it is then a fact....

 

[Hawknigh]

I hear lots of comparisons of Monte Morris to BJ Armstrong. I didn't get to see Armstrong play in college, but I did see him quite a bit with the Bulls. What would it take for Morris to deserve the comparison to Armstrong as a college player?

 

[ForeverIowan]

Guess he isn't top 5......Have you ever gotten anything correct ever? I'm thinking about taking that stupid Big12 vs B1G bet. Just because the Big12 always spits the bit in the NCAA, and you are always wrong.....to bad I can't trust you to pay, and too bad you are too chicken to back up your claims that Iowa would be worse this season.....it would be easy money, just like taking it from Fairfax.

Jeff Goodman ✔ @GoodmanESPN
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Bob Cousy Award 5 Finalists: T.J. McConnell (AZ), Tyus Jones (Duke), Kevin Pangos (Gonzaga), Delon Wright (Utah) & Fred VanVleet (Wichita).

You keep saying you are going to take the bet and never do. Back it up for once or just admit the Big 10 is trash. The BIG is literally two teams (maryland and Wisky). The rest is a 12 team pile of crap who are irrelevant in college bball this year.

So stop side stepping it and make the bet. The big has four more teams for crying out loud. Powder puff schedule.

So here we go. This bet is extended to any takers. maximum of 3 people. Well bet $25 for each round (64, 32, 16, 8, 4 title game) Conference with more wins in each round wins.

 

[ForeverIowan]

And no crap Morris wasn't a Cousy finalist. He is a sophomore and doesn't play at some blue blood or cinderella. If you seriously think Pangos and Van Vleet are better players you have problems. Morris has 2 more years to rack up plenty of awards. Aaron White is first team all conference one time as a senior holy crap one of the best to ever dawn the hawk jersey. What a joke of a program. 7 seed dancing in the streets!!

 

[mopkins]

The BIG is literally two teams (maryland and Wisky).

You clearly don't know what the word "literally" means. Holy sh*t at least try to have a clue what you're trying to say.

 

[ForeverIowan]

I could be wrong but I don't see Monte on there. Surely the best pg in the country at least made 1st team All B12 though, right?

Remember when ISU was up 25 in Carver without two 10 PPG scorers. One of those being the Big 12 defensive POY in McKay. Ha how can up you even try to talk crap I would be downright embarassed. That is absolutely humiliating. You guys are cute though solid mediocre year. Best for ya in a decade.

 

[DDThompson]

Haven't seen enough of Pangos. Morris is better than Van Fleet.


Lot of politicking and self-merchandizing in most of these awards. So...eh...Whatever.

 

[mopkins]

Remember when ISU was up 25 in Carver without two 10 PPG scorers. One of those being the Big 12 defensive POY in McKay. Ha how can up you even try to talk crap I would be downright embarassed. That is absolutely humiliating. You guys are cute though solid mediocre year. Best for ya in a decade.

Isn't Iowa State the team who lost to Maryland by 9?

 

[deanvogs]

And no crap Morris wasn't a Cousy finalist. He is a sophomore and doesn't play at some blue blood or cinderella. If you seriously think Pangos and Van Vleet are better players you have problems. Morris has 2 more years to rack up plenty of awards. Aaron White is first team all conference one time as a senior holy crap one of the best to ever dawn the hawk jersey. What a joke of a program. 7 seed dancing in the streets!!

Just give it up already. Take off Pangos and Van Vleet, and replace them with Trimble, Ferrel, Harrison, Staten, Paige. Those guys are all better than him this year, not any debating about it. I keep saying Morris is gonna be an NBA PG, so I ain't hating on Morris, he is a good player. You just need to get your head out ya azz on this one, he aint there yet, or he would be going to the NBA this year. As you even say he just has too much to work on yet. Top 5 PG are NBA bound, not going back to school to work on their game.

 

[ForeverIowan]

Just give it up already. Take off Pangos and Van Vleet, and replace them with Trimble, Ferrel, Harrison, Staten, Paige. Those guys are all better than him this year, not any debating about it. I keep saying Morris is gonna be an NBA PG, so I ain't hating on Morris, he is a good player. You just need to get your head out ya azz on this one, he aint there yet, or he would be going to the NBA this year. As you even say he just has too much to work on yet. Top 5 PG are NBA bound, not going back to school to work on their game.

So you are admitting the BIG is garbage? Seems about right...Funny all I heard from Hawk fans on here was how overrated the Big 12 is. Yet no one has jumped on my offer. Just admit the BIG is a bad conference this year. Purdue finished tied for 3rd for crying out loud what an absolute JOKE!

 

[AdamHawk]

So you are admitting the BIG is garbage? Seems about right...Funny all I heard from Hawk fans on here was how overrated the Big 12 is. Yet no one has jumped on my offer. Just admit the BIG is a bad conference this year. Purdue finished tied for 3rd for crying out loud what an absolute JOKE!

You do realize that the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place teams in the B12 all have losses to B10 schools right?

 

[deanvogs]

So you are admitting the BIG is garbage? Seems about right...Funny all I heard from Hawk fans on here was how overrated the Big 12 is. Yet no one has jumped on my offer. Just admit the BIG is a bad conference this year. Purdue finished tied for 3rd for crying out loud what an absolute JOKE!

So you are admitting Iowa is better this year and ISU is worse? Seems about right...Funny all I heard from Clown fans on here was how terrible Iowa was gonna be this year, and how ISU was a final 4 team. Just admit Iowa is better and ISU is worse.

I'll take your bet, you just have to take mine as well......

 

[deanvogs]

Ya know Forever, the more I look at it, the more I really want you to take my bet, so I can take yours. Just take my bet, you know ISU is gonna make it past the sweet 16, that will make my bet a push with you and then you can make all that crazy cash because the Big12 is so wicked good an all.

 

[ForeverIowan]

So you are admitting Iowa is better this year and ISU is worse? Seems about right...Funny all I heard from Clown fans on here was how terrible Iowa was gonna be this year, and how ISU was a final 4 team. Just admit Iowa is better and ISU is worse.

I'll take your bet, you just have to take mine as well......

Iowa is not a better team. They lost Dev Marble who was a pretty gifted player and replaced him with Peter Jok. No other additions to the team. Iowa's ceiling is not even close to as high. Sure players improved a bit but your ceiling as an athlete is limited.

Iowa had a better year because the BIG is extremely down . Highlighted by the fact you don't think a 14 team conference can produce more NCAA tournament wins than the 10 team Big 12. That is just embarassing for you. What a joke of a basketbalk conference this year.

ISU had a better conferense season And the Big 12 is better than last year Top to bottom. Well see what the tournaments bring.

 

[trj]

Iowa is not a better team. They lost Dev Marble who was a pretty gifted player and replaced him with Peter Jok. No other additions to the team. Iowa's ceiling is not even close to as high. Sure players improved a bit but your ceiling as an athlete is limited.

Iowa had a better year because the BIG is extremely down . Highlighted by the fact you don't think a 14 team conference can produce more NCAA tournament wins than the 10 team Big 12. That is just embarassing for you. What a joke of a basketbalk conference this year.

ISU had a better conferense season And the Big 12 is better than last year Top to bottom. Well see what the tournaments bring.

Quit posturing and take the man's bet...You are regurgitating the same ole **** over and over again. Iowa sucks, the BIG is terrible while the Big 12 has 6 teams that would compete for a playoff spot in the NBA Western conference. Bruh, we get it.......come up with some different arguments.

 

[mopkins]

Iowa is not a better team. They lost Dev Marble who was a pretty gifted player and replaced him with Peter Jok. No other additions to the team. Iowa's ceiling is not even close to as high. Sure players improved a bit but your ceiling as an athlete is limited.

Iowa had a better year because the BIG is extremely down . Highlighted by the fact you don't think a 14 team conference can produce more NCAA tournament wins than the 10 team Big 12. That is just embarassing for you. What a joke of a basketbalk conference this year.

ISU had a better conferense season And the Big 12 is better than last year Top to bottom. Well see what the tournaments bring.

Hate to hit you with some logic since you only spew opinions and filth without providing evidence but here you go:

- Texas Tech is easily the worst basketball program in the Big Ten or the Big 12. Oh and they beat Iowa State by the way
- Wisconsin is the best overall team out of both conferences
- Wisconsin/Maryland is a better 1/2 combination than anything the Big 12 has. Kansas/Baylor? Kansas/Iowa State? I think Maryland already proved they are better than Iowa State...
- Big 12's non conference wins are not impressive. Utah? Arkansas? Losing by 32 to Kentucky?

As for your comment:

the fact you don't think a 14 team conference can produce more NCAA tournament wins than the 10 team Big 12. That is just embarassing for you. What a joke of a basketbalk conference this year.

- The Big Ten is projected to produce 7 or 8 NCAA teams
- The 14 team SEC is projected to produce 5 NCAA teams
- The PAC-12 is projected to produce 3 NCAA teams
- The 14 team Atlantic 10 is only going to produce around 3 NCAA teams

So no, its not embarrassing at all, its actually a lot better than these other conferences I just listed. So yet again, you're dumb and don't know a thing.