Iowa State Lost

docholihawk said:
Nobody in the world is taking a bet from someone who doesn't pay and who has the character somewhat equal to Royce White. As for BIG teams they are clearly better than the over rated, middle of the road big 12 teams. As usual the tournament will prove it. Congrats on all the FF talk over at cyfan. When was it the last time a big 12 team made the FF?
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The last time a Big 12 team other than Kansas made the Final Four was Oklahoma State in 2004. 11 years ago. Since that time the Big Ten has made 8 Final Fours by 5 DIFFERENT teams.

So the Big 12 has had one school make the Final Four in the last 11 years, the exact same as the Horizon league. the Big 10 has had 5 schools. Its like saying the entire Horizon league was a powerhouse because Butler made the Final Four twice this decade.
 
mopkins said:
The last time a Big 12 team other than Kansas made the Final Four was Oklahoma State in 2004. 11 years ago. Since that time the Big Ten has made 8 Final Fours by 5 DIFFERENT teams.

So the Big 12 has had one school make the Final Four in the last 11 years, the exact same as the Horizon league. the Big 10 has had 5 schools. Its like saying the entire Horizon league was a powerhouse because Butler made the Final Four twice this decade.
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Hey don't muddy the water with facts. :)
 
WindsorHawk said:
I think McKay gives them something they didn't have last year. When Dejean-Jones is playing well I think they are better. When he's not playing well I think they are about the same.
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Is that when Jones is playing hero ball also. McKay is really good but he almost always goes for the shot block or shot fake that a smart post player could take advantage of.
 
BigD said:
Fifteen pages talking about ISU? Now I have to go get de-toxed and put in isolation. Lol, just kidding. Duke, Iowa, UNI, and ISU to the finale four.... Yeah and I might win power ball too, there's no way Duke will make it. LMAO!!!!!
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I have to agree with you. Iowa's the only one with a chance to make it to the final four.
 
mopkins said:
Overall, yes, but I would argue that last year Kansas had a better team than any current Big 12 team. Wiggins, Embiid, Ellis, etc? Those guys then lost to Stanford...

The top of the top is not as good this year in the Big 12. Kansas was NOT a great team this year and they outright won the conference. Not saying one of the teams cant go on a run this year, but that Kansas team last year had a lot better shot of making the final four than any big 12 team does this year.
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Embiid ws out for both postseason tournies and he was a real difference maker for them.
 
ForeverIowan said:
Iowa is not a better team. They lost Dev Marble who was a pretty gifted player and replaced him with Peter Jok. No other additions to the team. Iowa's ceiling is not even close to as high. Sure players improved a bit but your ceiling as an athlete is limited.

Iowa had a better year because the BIG is extremely down . Highlighted by the fact you don't think a 14 team conference can produce more NCAA tournament wins than the 10 team Big 12. That is just embarassing for you. What a joke of a basketbalk conference this year.

ISU had a better conferense season And the Big 12 is better than last year Top to bottom. Well see what the tournaments bring.
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Oh Deano, please tell me you took his bet!
 
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