Didn't you refer to it extending plays with his feet? Isn't that scrambling?
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Didn't you refer to it extending plays with his feet? Isn't that scrambling?
#1 - No one claimed to know more about football than GD, stop putting words in other peoples mouths.
#2 - Everyone who responds to you truly doesn't care who the starter is, but apparently you do. The whole point was if Sokol doesn't win the job you will be one of the first people on here claiming KF isn't playing the best player, all because of a spring game and a few comments by GD that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
#3 - No one is bashing Sokol but your proof doesn't add up. You claim to have real proof that GD is leaning towards Sokol because of his abilities to extend plays with his feet. Ok, great but can we run the offense beyond just extending broken down plays? Will he make smart decisions under fire? WHO KNOWS!!! But apparently you know with 100% certain Sokol will do all of those things.
#4 - I call B.S. on your won't be complaining if Rudock starts and the offense doesn't look better. Clearly you think Sokol is the better QB, if you don't complain you are merely holding back from defending your favorite QB, Sokol and you know everyone here is going to call you out on it if you do.
#5 - Where is the proof Sokol is the best leader? Where oh, where, is it Mr. team insider?
You need to relax, we get your "opinion" is that Sokol is the best leader and best QB but your "opinion" doesn't mean anything.
I'm referring to more than just running around in the pocket. JVB could run or throw but he couldn't do both at the same time. If the play wasn't there as he expected, he wasn't going to find a way to make it happen. It's all happening in a split second, avoiding the rush while finding options downfield.
I'm not referring to the 2 yard check-down either (anyone can do that). It really takes talent; athletic abilty, vision and instinct. Most pro's have the ability to make a play off-schedule, especially Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Plays don't go as planned 50% of the time in the NFL, according to GD, and I believe that stat, so you have to be able to make plays off schedule to be successful.
I know you didn't bring PM or TB into this argument but aside from that GD talking plays not going according to play 50% of the time in the NFL has nothing to do with Sokol, Rudock now or JVB from last year.
Actually Peyton manning is one of the worst qbs making plays when he has to move out of the pocket and is moved off his mark. He makes his plays on pre snap and adjustments and subtle movement in the pocket. If he has to leave the pocket to create more time he struggles. That is why he sight adjusts before plays more than any other QB so he doesn't have to make plays that are off schedule.
DP5555
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I think all three QB's have good leadership skills. They better, or they have no business being a QB. However, I haven't seen another poster claim that Rudock has the best leadership skills of the three, and if I did see that I would ask them the same thing I asked you. How do you know that?
You specifically claimed Sokol is the best leader, and in a way you claimed he's the only one who has talent. Don't get mad at us for asking you to explain yourself. If it's your opinion then make that clear. Then people won't call you out. You're posting statements that make it seem like it's a fact. When you do that people are going to wonder if you have a legitimate source or if you're just throwing crap at the wall and hoping it sticks. It's becoming more and more clear that you're just full of it.
Really? I guess you don't remember responding to the above post. A bunch of people have claimed Rudock is the best leader and best decision maker but I haven't noticed you being skeptical and asking questions about that.
Also, show me where I posted anything and made it look like a fact when it wasn't? How is someone's confidence level anything other than subjective? I promise you I'm not the first person to write or say that Sokol has "contagious confidence" so it isn't just me that thinks that.
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DJK@djkoulianos26 Jul@usatodaysports has @iowafootball likely to win only three games in 2013. hearing good things about 1st yr qb cody sokol. guessing six wins
DJK as a source, come on, he isn't allowed to watch closed practices. He MIGHT have speaken to a few current players "off the record" but I highly doubt it. Not many DJK era players still on the team. Plus I doubt anyone wants to push KF by hanging out with DJK either.
Whoa, where did I claim he was a "source". Yes, I think he probably has more connections within the team than you or DP555, that's true.
You posted it with no idea where, how or why he formed this opinion so makes sense to you because it sides with your Sokol obsession.
Nice! Now responding to your ****** bag comments is classified as a "Sokol obsession". I didn't repsond to your jumbled mess a few posts above either, but it doesn't change the fact you're wrong.
Jumbled mess? Sorry of wasn't clear enough for someone as intellectually superior as yourself. And yes obsession is a perfect word for a person such as yourself who argues so much over an opinion.
DP5555
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This is your own words. You make the last statement regarding him being the best leader as if it's a known fact. When asked how you know that you don't have an answer.
I seriously could care less who the starter is. I have no allegiance to Rudock. I simply think he has the best shot given his edge on experience. I don't care to hear people claiming he shouldn't be the guy if he is named the starter. You are already claiming it should be Sokol without any substantial evidence to support that. Which is the only reason you're getting this kind of reaction. All I'm saying is let's wait and see who earns it by competing. Let's not decide who's most deserving based off of preconceived notions or man-crushes.
Wow, I don't say this often but this is just dumb. I thought I expected better from you but not sure now. So you want verifiable evidence why I think Sokol is a leader and has a lot of confidence? Everyone who has seen him play knows this. I've seen a lot of people write about it so it isn't just me. Maybe you should ask them for "proof". You're really stretching for stuff to argue about here.
Btw, I'm not going to stop writing positive comments about ANY Iowa player I see fit so you might as well quit with the routine. Or not but it doen't really matter.
DP5555
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Good lord your reading comprehension skills need some improvement. I'm thrilled when I see positive comments about Hawkeye players. I'm not arguing about that. I haven't seen another poster claim any of the three QB's is the best leader. Key word being BEST. You said Sokol is the BEST leader of the three. I simply asked how do you know that to be true? Have you been at practices? Have you been in the huddle with all 3? Have you been in the locker room? Have one of the coaches or players made a comment about this that I'm not aware of?
If none of the above are true then you have no evidence to claim he is the BEST in the leadership category. Maybe he is. I don't know. I'm asking how you know that... Don't come back with "you don't ask anyone else that". No one else is making the same claim or I would.
So if someone wrote "Kate Upton is the best looking female in the world" you would consider that a "factual statement" subject to evidence. Maybe YOU need to work on your reading comprehension.
I have my reasons to think Sokol is the best leader (not that you REALLY care, I know). Nevertheless, leadership isn't a big factor, imo, like you seem to think it is. If you've been in a position of leadership you would know that leadership is 80% about the position you're in. In other words, people respect you if you are in a position of authority or leadership. Whoever gets the nod will be respected by the players and they will follow. That's guaranteed.
Now, to be an above average leader, you need confidence and ability. To be a great leader you need those attributes and vision. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln were all great leaders due to their vision. You have to project confidence to be a really good leader. Sokol is the only one who projected confidence through his mannerisms that I noticed and that's why I think he's the best. Again though, I don't think it's as important as you seem to think it is.
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So if leadership is 80% the position then you are saying a guys like mark Sanchez or Blaine gabbert are almost as good of leaders as Tom Brady or Peyton manning. How about Tim tebow (I stipulate I am not a fan of his) he is looked at as a great leader yet by your position stipulation he would lose 80% of his leadership capabilities if he changes positions.
There are good leaders who are not in leadership positions and bad leaders in leadership positions. I don't know who the best leader is of the qbs. But I know I have read and heard that rudock is a great leader. I haven't heard as much of it on Sokol. Maybe because he hasn't had as much time in the program. Either way your premise is flawed. People that think leadership is in the position and not the person probably aren't good leaders as they don't understand the true essence of leadership. Which is the ability to get other to follow because of what they have done to EARN respect and position...not what they have been GIVEN. I don't expect the QB to be someone just given the position...they will earn it, therefore they will be a leader. But the leadership comes before the position not because of it.
