Iowa OC/DC Rankings Since 1999

GesterHawk said:
I think you mean Average, not mean.

When you look at BF's scoring offense, it is much higher than the yard based metrics. When you combine that with the defensive rankings, it makes more sense. A team isn't going to put up a ton of yards when they have a short field to go. Our extremely high number of interceptions last year really contributed to that.

Would I have rather seen about 14 more points on the board for each of the last 2 games, yes I would have. Who wouldn't?
Would I rather have seen our receivers and tight ends catch the dang ball, yes I would have.
Some times we just need to take a step back and look at the whole picture.
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Not to nitpick, but in math (and statistics) the average is the mean. You compute by adding up to a total and then dividing by the number of items.
 
hawkinarkansas said:
Numbers on face value are anemic at best, however a large number of teams get 20-30 more offensive sets than Iowa during a game given our style.
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True. A couple of years ago, my brother-in-law (who is an assistant coach at Central College) and I were talking about the Central game of that day. He said that they ran over 100 offensive plays; on that same day Iowa ran 58. Both teams won but Iowa's margin of win was greater on that day.
 
tksirius said:
I'm not an idiot that correlates a good defense to a shitty offense. Are you an idiot only on the internet or in real life too?
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However, Iowa does play a ball-control run-heavy offense. This type of play makes for low offensive numbers but also means we win the time of possession. If we win time of possession and we can keep the opponents offense backed up due to a good kicking game, our defense is on the field less minutes and can perform at a higher level. (Or are you one that complained when Iowa's D ran out of gas toward the end of games when Tate played?) Yes, I think Iowa could adopt a different offense, but would it fit into the overall scheme of what Ferentz has done for 20 years? I doubt it. And any who complain about it are not really looking at the past 20 years of Iowa football.

And for the record, I do think we need a lot of work on the offensive side of the ball.
 
Knight78 said:
Not to nitpick, but in math (and statistics) the average is the mean. You compute by adding up to a total and then dividing by the number of items.
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And I did own up to my own culpability. Confused it with median in my effort to work and post at the same time.
 
Knight78 said:
However, Iowa does play a ball-control run-heavy offense. This type of play makes for low offensive numbers but also means we win the time of possession. If we win time of possession and we can keep the opponents offense backed up due to a good kicking game, our defense is on the field less minutes and can perform at a higher level. (Or are you one that complained when Iowa's D ran out of gas toward the end of games when Tate played?) Yes, I think Iowa could adopt a different offense, but would it fit into the overall scheme of what Ferentz has done for 20 years? I doubt it. And any who complain about it are not really looking at the past 20 years of Iowa football.

And for the record, I do think we need a lot of work on the offensive side of the ball.
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Don't bother. He wasn't even close to getting the point that when a defense routinely gives the offense a short field to score, the offense won't have to gain a lot of yards to do so.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Iowa regularly plays the field position game and that does impair the offensive output. It has been that way for pretty much 20 years, I don't think it's too controversial of a point. Iowa intentionally tries to shorten the game, which leaves the defense on the field for fewer reps and boosts their stats, to the detriment of the offense. It's a good strategy to beat better teams because you'll see games against teams Iowa has no business beating coming down to a possession or two at the end, but the downside is it leaves Iowa susceptible against teams like Northwestern or Purdue last year or Minnesota those years that they totally sucked. I'm sure Iowa could go out there and try to play tempo and boost yardage and even scoring, but the downside of that would be 20 more plays for the defense and it would harm them. Kirk coaches the units to be a cohesive team, which is becoming rare. A lot of teams in Big 12 and Pac 12 just go tempo all the time and it makes their defenses look like hot garbage.
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We might have the punter this season to make field position even more of a factor with the Defense playing so well. It gets rather discouraging for a team to start inside the ten-yard line over and over and over again.....

The offense usually takes a while to get in gear. This year is no exception. Who knows perhaps Cap is saving his exotics for the Badgers.....

:cool:
 
Knight78 said:
However, Iowa does play a ball-control run-heavy offense. This type of play makes for low offensive numbers but also means we win the time of possession.
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How do we do that if our offense is always getting great field position like Mr. 'average isn't a mean' states? :rolleyes: How in the hell do teams like Alabama have such good offensive rankings when their defense is so good? :eek:

Seriously, I can't even believe I'm entertaining this idiocy.
 
uihawk82 said:
What the hell is points per play.

How about points at the end of the game by the offense and given up by the defense
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Well, if our offense is getting great field position because our defense is good, our points per play should be better because we'd have less plays, and I'm sure it is better!

A good defense should make an offense score more points, not less. Anyone that thinks the opposite is a moron.

This is why I posted our yards per play ranking, which isn't pretty. YPP doesn't matter if you have good or bad field position.
 
tksirius said:
Do you even know what a median is?
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If Kirk decided to go no huddle starting next week, our offensive numbers would instantly improve and our defensive numbers would instantly get worse. That's because our offense and defense would be on the field for more plays. This should be common knowledge to anyone who talks about sports enough to be on a message board routinely. That fact doesn't defend Kirk or help him. It's just a fact.
 
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