Iowa OC/DC Rankings Since 1999

I wish they listed a points per possession statistic. While not necessarily a perfect measurement stat for an offense as they can be bolstered by starting position, Pts/poss offensively vs defensively are more in line with the philosophy of Kirk ball. Total offense and defense mean jack shit to the style Iowa plays
 
tksirius said:
I wish our offense was better. Cherry picking stats in order to make the offense look better don't mean jack. ;)
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I wish they were too. It's no more cherry picking than Total Offense and Total Defense unless you show me the difference in statistical significance vs Wins between the two. I'd run the regression myself but I'm only on here when I'm at work and I'm not wasting away my personal time at home for you guys!
 
Ree4 said:
I wish they were too. It's no more cherry picking than Total Offense and Total Defense unless you show me the difference in statistical significance vs Wins between the two. I'd run the regression myself but I'm only on here when I'm at work and I'm not wasting away my personal time at home for you guys!
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Too late, you already have. :p
 
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21

OFFENSE:

Under BF Season One:

Total Offense: 116th
Scoring Offense: 66th
Passing Offense: 93rd
Rushing Offense: 96th
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Mean Ranking: 92.75

Under BF 4 Games Season Two: (These #s are for season two '2018' only)
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(129 total FBS teams; I ranked UNI as 130th) UNI's total defense is actually worse than 130th, so I'm doing BF a favor. ;) UNI's Total defense is probably around 160 to 180.

Opponents' Total Defense Avg Ranking: 65
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Total Offense: Tied for 82nd
Scoring Offense: Tied for 95th
Passing Offense: 73rd
Rushing Offense: 77th
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Mean Ranking: 81.75

5 years under Greg Davis:

Total Offense: 92.2nd
Scoring Offense: 82.4nd
Passing Offense: 92nd
Rushing Offense: 66.8th
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Mean Ranking: 83.35

13 years under KOK:

Total Offense: 67.92th
Scoring Offense: 59.46th
Passing Offense: 59.84th
Rushing Offense: 66.23th
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Mean Ranking: 63.36

11 years under KOK if you take away the first 2 years:

Total Offense: 62.18nd
Scoring Offense: 51.72st
Passing Offense: 60th
Rushing Offense: 59.36th
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Mean Ranking: 58.31

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DEFENSE:

Under Phil Parker 6 Seasons:

Total Defense: 26.33th
Scoring Defense: 23.66rd
Passing Defense: 33.16rd
Rushing Defense: 35.5th
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Mean Ranking: 29.66

Under Phil Parker 4 Games Season Seven: (These #s are for season seven '2018' only)
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(129 total FBS teams; I ranked UNI as 130th) UNI's total offense is actually worse than 130th, so I'm doing Phil a favor. ;) UNI's Total Offense is probably around 215 to 235.

Opponents' Total Offense Avg Ranking: 102.5
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Total Defense: 5th
Scoring Defense: 6th
Passing Defense: 35th
Rushing Defense: 6th
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Mean Ranking: 13th

13 years under Norm Parker:

Total Defense: 45.46th
Scoring Defense: 30.69th
Passing Defense: 64.53th
Rushing Defense: 36.46th
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Mean Ranking: 44.28

11 years under Norm if you take away the first 2 years:

Total Defense: 33.81rd
Scoring Defense: 20.54th
Passing Defense: 61st
Rushing Defense: 24.18th
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Mean Ranking: 34.88
 
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Ree4 said:
I wish they were too. It's no more cherry picking than Total Offense and Total Defense unless you show me the difference in statistical significance vs Wins between the two. I'd run the regression myself but I'm only on here when I'm at work and I'm not wasting away my personal time at home for you guys!
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I'll save you the time. Texas and Greg Davis ran a study on the top 10 teams of 2000 - 2008. Then a guy ran a regression analysis on those stats:

RANK STATISTIC COEFFICIENT
1 Scoring Offense .816
2 Scoring Defense -.811
3 Rush Defense -.767
4 Total Defense -.694
5 Total Offense .610
6 Rush Offense .485
7 Turnover Margin .425
8 Pass Offense .238
9 Pass Defense -.134

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ba...14/which-statistics-correlate-best-to-winning
 
cincyhawk said:
I'll save you the time. Texas and Greg Davis ran a study on the top 10 teams of 2000 - 2008. Then a guy ran a regression analysis on those stats:

RANK STATISTIC COEFFICIENT
1 Scoring Offense .816
2 Scoring Defense -.811
3 Rush Defense -.767
4 Total Defense -.694
5 Total Offense .610
6 Rush Offense .485
7 Turnover Margin .425
8 Pass Offense .238
9 Pass Defense -.134

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ba...14/which-statistics-correlate-best-to-winning
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This doesn't at all address the statistic of points per possession for comparison against total offense/defense, which I mentioned should have a higher correlation with wins than the moderate correlation of adjusted figures in the study of Total Defense: -.694 and Total Offense: .610. It lists points per play, which, while similar to points per possession really favors big play teams over methodical/ball control teams. Average starting position would play a huge role in points per play as well.

I do like his idea of separating Offensive vs Defensive stats and trying to find a way to analyze them independently as they are definitely related to each other. The secondary analysis he suggests at the end is where we should see some insight that is much more meaningful. I'd like to do/see a regression for all FBS teams and not just the top 10 but that would take weeks of data entry, but I'd be interested to see the comparison. Wish I had more time! Thanks for sharing
 
Northside Hawk said:
Cephus may have made one play too many. Think I read where it's going to trial now. That would put his season, and possibly more, up in the air.

Then again in 1984 Illinois' Craig Swoope was found not guilty on the day before the season opener for a similiar charge and was on the field the next week. God knows how much HC Mike White and/or the boosters paid to speed up the trial and grease the lawyers and judge. They were the sleaziest program in the BIG in those days.
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A few years later they brought in Steve Feagin. He's currently playing the prison league for rape.
 
okeefe4prez said:
A few years later they brought in Steve Feagin. He's currently playing the prison league for rape.
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Former DePaul standouts Teddy Grubbs and Skip Dillard may be playing that same league. Grubbs for rape, Dillard for a series of robberies, some armed. Mark Aguirre, Terry Cummings, and Bernard Randolph were the lucky ones to come out of that program with their noses clean.
 
Northside Hawk said:
Former DePaul standouts Teddy Grubbs and Skip Dillard may be playing that same league. Grubbs for rape, Dillard for a series of robberies, some armed. Mark Aguirre, Terry Cummings, and Bernard Randolph were the lucky ones to come out of that program with their noses clean.
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Good thing Dave Corzine graduated before these guys came to DePaul! :)

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Robowe said:
Good thing Dave Corzine graduated before these guys came to DePaul! :)

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Corzine was similiar to the Whopper. Billy Paultz, kind of a poor man's Bill Laimbeer. All had long NBA careers because they played to their strengths and played cerebral. Mike Gminski was that type of player as well.
 
Northside Hawk said:
Corzine was similiar to the Whopper. Billy Paultz, kind of a poor man's Bill Laimbeer. All had long NBA careers because they played to their strengths and played cerebral. Mike Gminski was that type of player as well.
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I see your Mike Gminski, and raise you a Kent Benson. :)
 
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