Gohawks123
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I don't overreact to losses...but I will react to what I see on the court. There was absolutely no reason to play zone defense the last 2 games and the coaches did it anyways. It's concerning to this poster.
Iowa needed a "splash" hire like Iowa State
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HAWKEY3
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I think I'll be more willing to judge Coach McCaffrey if/when our freshmen are seniors. If the youngest on our team don't become the best on our team and play solid games in a winning season at that time, we're in the same place we were with TL. THEN I'll be back here having my psychological meltdown.
Rediculous? Yes this is a rediculous post.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
Hoiberg was a splash hire in the state of Iowa and the town of Ames. Let's not kid ourselves, it's not like the Cyclones hired Michael Jordan or Larry Bird type celebrity to coach their team. They hired a local celebrity.
AHawk1
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Exactly right, and who does Iowa have that is even remotely close to being beloved by Hawk fans as much is Fred is by ISU fans. ISU has had a great start to the season, but those 6 or 7 guys are going to wear out in a hurry in the Big 12, and thats without any more injuries.
Back to the post. You wanted a splash hire. Who did you have in mind?
Iowafarmgirl
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The problem is not that Iowa and Fran are not competitive, but that Iowa fans thought that they would be, when the talent didn't even pass my eyeball test, and I watch almost zero college ball.
83Hawk
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So Iowa should have hired a "coach" with no experience just because he is a former player in order to "excite" the fan base. How long do you think fans would show up just to "see" B.J. Armstron, etc.? Not long.
I'd rather have a coach that actually knows what he is doing.
Ryno, you must not have attended any games. I've been to all the home games this year. Fans ARE starting to come back (although last night's debacle isn't going to help) and they ARE getting more excited.
It isn't going to happen overnight. And making a "splash" hire would do nothing but end up setting the program back even farther.
I'd rather have a coach that actually knows what he is doing.
Ryno, you must not have attended any games. I've been to all the home games this year. Fans ARE starting to come back (although last night's debacle isn't going to help) and they ARE getting more excited.
It isn't going to happen overnight. And making a "splash" hire would do nothing but end up setting the program back even farther.
ForeverHawk
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I am not too worried at this point. I had zero expectations going into this year. I have seen some bright spots this year. This team is very young. I don't really think we can judge McCaffery until his "first" freshman class are seniors. Outside of Basabe, I would not even call Marble and McCabe his freshman. He did not recruit them initially, but I also think they will be good players in a year or two with experience. Fortunately for me, I only caught the last 10 minutes of the game last night and I think Iowa won by 3 points over that span. Winner, Winner Chicken Dinner!!!
This is the correct answer. I believe Fran will get this team back to where all Hawk feel they should be. If anyone thought that this team had a chance at more then 10-15 wins you were kidding yourself.
Fran has proven he knows how to rebuild a team, and before you say "He rebuit Siena" Siena was a solid team. Iowa basketball has nearly 11 years of being well below average. It will take more then a half of a season turn it around.
Hawkfromnorwalk
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We all has pretty low expectations coming into this season. Then in some of the non-conference games and against OSU all of the sudden people started thinking that they could raise the expectations a little. The last two games have just reaffirmed the fact that this team still should have very little expectation this year.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
It really depends on which games you are talking about. Up until the last two games, Iowa was competitive in all the games.
Iowafarmgirl
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By competitive, I meant winning games, not winning halves.
It looked like Hilton was around half full the night they played Northern Illinois. Almost entire sections behind the basket were empty on one end. I think both teams fan bases have became very apathetic. The clones have had a great boost because they have started out the season on fire, but overall I think both teams attendance is amazingly poor unless they are playing big name opponents.
Just my two cents
Just my two cents
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
I guess it's all on how you define "being competitive". This season, I (and I assumed most people) saw that as being in the ballgames and not being blown out. In that case, Iowa has been competitive most of this year.
This is a brilliant post (ha) and why I cannot stand most people who follow Iowa Basketball these days. Fran McCaffery is a very good coach and will get it done here. He is trying to go up hill against 12 years of ridiculousness and to expect magic at this point is foolish and "I hate to say it this early" moronic. Take a look and how much more talent is on teh court right now compared to any point in the last 4 years and then we can talk more rationally.
It is fans like you who put this program where it is in the first place. I bet you were the first on the fire Tom Davis bus, huh? What do you expect?
There is nothing that says BJ would fail.
Fred was smart takes less pay to make sure he keeps the lead recruiter, and makes sure he hires a top notch assistant who won in a major hoops conference.
BJ I am guessing would have done something similar.
BJ and Fred are smart guys and have been exposed to a lot of hoops, as players, talent evaluators, and, at least in Fred's case, stints on an NBA bench. To assume that they would fail because they did not follow the traditional route of other coaches is short sighted.
EddyP
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Credibility fail.
