lightning1
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Disagree all you want.
Iowa Basketball Recruits
- Thread starter tksirius
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lightning1
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30 ppg scorer? CHECKYeah, I bet all division 1 coaches think he plays lazy defense.
Great passer? CHECK
Plenty of steals? CHECK
Athletic? CHECK
Division 1 scholarship offers? 1? 2? out of 351?
Care to explain what other reasons are available? Care to explain why this is?
tksirius
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Yep, that must mean they all think he plays lazy defense. You got me.
lightning1
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By all means, educate us. Tell us what you think the reason is. I know what I see and I see effort that doesn't match his talents.
Tell us why D-1 coaches won't offer him.
Adam
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He's short, lives in Iowa, potential character issues, and hasnt risen up the recruiting rankings yet. These all culminate to a lack of early interest.
How many D1 coaches have even casually brushed paths with this kid playing? Maybe 10? 20 seems too high. He is just not known of widely enough to even be on the radar of 300+ division 1 programs. You can't offer a player that you don't know exists.
Northside Hawk
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I don't know about that. It's hard to not get noticed today with AAU and all. Wisconsin, Purdue, and Wichita State were on Cordell Pemsl's trail in ninth grade. There's a kid over here in Wisconsin, Mineral Point's Brayden Dailey. Wisconsin and Northwestern were at several of his games last winter, when he was ninth grade. I can guarantee you Fran knows who he is, too.
lightning1
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So was Tyler Ulis
According to Tksirius, those are lies.
Wrong. Wrong on so many levels.
How many coaches? You clearly have no clue how AAU works.
He's going to be a SR. Every other D-1 basketball player already has offers by this time. He's class of 2019. Most college coaches have their 2019 class committed and in the rear view mirror.
Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
lightning1
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Every D-1 head coach in the Midwest knows who he is. I guarantee it.
deanvogs
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Yep, you are spot on this Locure stuff.
I will say though, coaches do miss all the time on kids. BUT, and this is a big but.... % wise they are right way more times than they are wrong. So odds say that Locure is exactly what his recruiting is telling us he is, a fringe D1 prospect. Doesn't mean he can't beat the odds though, and I am rooting he does.
Adam
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LMAO! That would be an amazing accomplishment since only 21 of the top 100 recruits are committed yet. Please by all means continue to tell me how this recruiting thing works.
Adam
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Like I said not known to 300+ D1 programs. You're fooling yourself if you think Izzo, Beilein, Holtmann, Painter or Miller know who Locure is or have ever even heard his name. Maybe programs like Minnesota, Illinois, and Nebraska have heard of him. Maybe even spent 5 minutes building a profile on him. There are thousands of 2019 unranked HS prospects in the Midwest alone. Yet you think all D1 coaches have time to learn them all.
P.S. I imagine you know just about how much value I place in your personal guarantee.
Adam
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Yes of course it is possible to get noticed very early. It just typically isn't happening for 5'8 kids. I do believe that Locure will get more looks after this AAU circuit, but he simply has not been on a big enough stage to be a household name even for the majority of Midwest coaches.
Adam
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Ummm Tyler Ulis was an NBA talent that was overlooked completely until his junior AAU circuit and his Senior year. He held exactly 2 power 6 offers by the end of his Junior season. He had 9 by the start of his Senior season. Tyler Ulis is actually the most relevant comparison to explain Locure's lack of recruitment.
deanvogs
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Can we just stop with the Ulis comparisons? By this time in his career he had many offer including ones from Iowa, MSU and Kentucky. Locure is not Ulis.
Adam
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Actually Ulis picked up the offers from MSU and Kentucky and his other big offers right about this time in his career. When he finished his junior season the only P6 offers he had were Iowa and DePaul.
Obviously I am not comparing them as players, but if Locure picks up steam on the recruiting trail then their recruitment stories could be very similar.
deanvogs
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Ulis had a ton of offers. He had an Iowa offer for a long time, and he also had a couple other offers as well I believe. Then about this time or sooner he blew up, and got a million more offers and the MSU and Kentucky offers.
Adam
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From Wikipedia:
Because of his height, Ulis was overlooked until well into the recruiting process for top basketball schools. He was not highly recruited until his 2013–14 senior year of high school. Among schools regarded as high-major programs, only Iowa and DePaul made him offers during his junior year.[7] His other offers were from Dayton, Colorado State, Loyola, Northern Illinois and Oregon State
That's not a ton of offers and certainly not a dazzling recruitment. He also benefited from playing ball in Illinois against the likes of Jabari Parker, Jahlil Okafor, Malcolm Hill, Tracy Abrams, and Jalen Brunson. It's no question that there were way more eyes on Illinois High School basketball at that time then there has ever been on Iowa High School basketball.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Ulis
deanvogs
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I know he didn't blow up until later, but by this time he had a ton of offers. Plus he did have better offers before that, with Iowa, and a few others.
Locure is NOT Ulis and using the one guy who went from not much to a 5* in a short amount of time is not what is going to happen with Locure.
Adam
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The comparison between the 2 was only ever meant to serve as a factual record for being under recruited based on being short. Short kids even with baller skills don't usually start out as high profile recruits.
Locure may or may not blow up, but it is undeniable that his talent exceeds his recruitment.
deanvogs
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Undeniable that his talent exceeds his recruitment? That is an opinion, and clearly up for debate. Fran hasn't been shy about offering Iowa kids, if Locure was this sure fire thing many on here are pretending he is, Fran would have offered as well as many other D1 programs.
