If you were Beathard's parent, would you encourage him to transfer?

[okeefe4prez]

Beathard obviously has the talent to be a Heisman candidate and a multi-year NFL starter. He is only letting Jake start right now because he doesn't want to be Jacksonville's first round pick...

I had never thought of that. He's better off being more like Aaron Rogers and hoping he lands at a good franchise that will have a few years to teach him the offense before he starts.

 

[ThunderHawk]

Nope. I would tell my kid, i believe if you try harder you can win the job. You are playing d1 and that means competition.

Kurt's loyal, brah.

 

[ThunderHawk]

The only way I'd tell him to transfer is if he could a scholly at a school better than Iowa and still be the backup. Iowa hasn't produced a QB who has played in an NFL regular season game bince when? Was it Mark Vlasic? Unless you are destined to win the Heisman and play QB in the NFL liek RGIII and are stuck behind Andrew Luck, you should just take your spot on the bench and get your free education and the jersey chasers that come along with it. No sense in getting rolled over and messing up your squash unless you've got a huge payday on the other side. And no, selling variable annuities in Neck Moines ain't a huge payday.

Troll post calling Beathard a Heisman candidate and NFL starter in 3...2...1

COME AT ME BRO

 

[Tkingpin]

Whether any of us thinks he should or shouldn't transfer, it is a moot point. The sad truth is that Beathard and Canzeri will probably transfer.

I do think Beathard has a higher ceiling. The 50 yard strike he threw in the WMU game was unbelievable. Perfectly in stride to a streaking Powell, and not a rainbow that Powell just needs to run underneath. IMHO Rudock doesn't have that throw, nor the accuracy that deep down the field.

What we don't know is if Beathard has the command of the entire offense, ability to read the defense and set the team up in the right play for the defense he sees. I hope we do, someday down the road, but we probably never will.

 

[ICHawk24]

The 50 yard strike he threw in the WMU game was unbelievable.

I completely believe the throw happened. I was there. There were many other eyewitnesses. I also saw it on video tape.

So, totally believable.

 

[Tkingpin]

OK. Your turn. What adjective would be better/ more appropriate?

 

[1hawkeye1]

I for one, figured Rudock would transfer out after last season. He was stuck on the bench behind JVB and never even sniffed the field once. Not even when PSU rolled us at home.

Since then though, things have worked out pretty well for JR.

 

[ICHawk24]

It was a great throw in garbage time.

 

[okeefe4prez]

It was a great throw in garbage time.

Don't denigrate the accomplishments of the players.

 

[HomerChampless]

You realize, don't you, that every college football player in every division is eligible to be considered for the Heisman? So technically, yes, Beathard is a Heisman candidate, as is every other player on the Iowa football team.

Another poster that thinks concretely. How are you with concepts? I doubt you do very well. Then again, one can only hope you're being sarcastic, right, LawVHawk?

 

[dave3912]

I for one, figured Rudock would transfer out after last season. He was stuck on the bench behind JVB and never even sniffed the field once. Not even when PSU rolled us at home.

Since then though, things have worked out pretty well for JR.

So you thought that Rudock would transfer for not getting any garbage time in a blowout last season? Keep in mind he had the upper hand in a possibly becoming a 3 year start after last season.

I don't think you really thought that through.

 

[GotTimDodge]

If Beathard actually wants to play, he should transfer.
The only way he plays at Iowa is if Rudock goes down.
Otherwise it's one season for him, which isn't bad.

Drive competition at the qb positition?
Now that's funny.

 

[ICHawk24]

If Beathard transfers, he loses a year of eligibility since he already redshirted. So he'd have, at most, two years to play. At a whole new school, whole new team, whole new playbook. There is zero guarantee that he would ever start at another school. He could go to a place like Western Illinois in search of likely playing time, but transferring to another BCS-level school only restarts the competition, and he has less time remaining.

 

[Madman]

Whether any of us thinks he should or shouldn't transfer, it is a moot point. The sad truth is that Beathard and Canzeri will probably transfer.

I do think Beathard has a higher ceiling. The 50 yard strike he threw in the WMU game was unbelievable. Perfectly in stride to a streaking Powell, and not a rainbow that Powell just needs to run underneath. IMHO Rudock doesn't have that throw, nor the accuracy that deep down the field.

What we don't know is if Beathard has the command of the entire offense, ability to read the defense and set the team up in the right play for the defense he sees. I hope we do, someday down the road, but we probably never will.

Moot point or not, I find myself agreeing with you on the rest of this.

 

[1hawkeye1]

So you thought that Rudock would transfer for not getting any garbage time in a blowout last season? Keep in mind he had the upper hand in a possibly becoming a 3 year start after last season.

I don't think you really thought that through.

Rudock could've easily said, "clearly this staff has no confidence in my ability" when PSU is dominating us at home. I wouldn't have blamed him at all had he transferred. I'm glad he didn't.

Why is that "not thinking it through"? It's my opinion.

 

[VAHawkFan]

Rudock could've easily said, "clearly this staff has no confidence in my ability" when PSU is dominating us at home. I wouldn't have blamed him at all had he transferred. I'm glad he didn't.

Why is that "not thinking it through"? It's my opinion.

Or perhaps...just perhaps...he recognized that he wasn't yet ready. First year under a new coordinator with a new system, a year in which in a 5th year senior struggled. A year in which our O-line was playing without two starters by time Penn State rolled around; perhaps he wasn't ready to get "the call". Your assumption that he was itching to get in the game is baseless.

 

[dave3912]

Rudock could've easily said, "clearly this staff has no confidence in my ability" when PSU is dominating us at home. I wouldn't have blamed him at all had he transferred. I'm glad he didn't.

Why is that "not thinking it through"? It's my opinion.

I listed why already, plus he was a RS freshman during that time with a change in OC with a difference in style.

 

[PCHawk]

How crazy would it be if sometime in the 1st half Saturday, Beathard comes strolling onto the field for 1 series full of read options and maybe a deep ball? Everyone in the stadium would be in shock.

 

[Eda]

Rudock could've easily said, "clearly this staff has no confidence in my ability" when PSU is dominating us at home. I wouldn't have blamed him at all had he transferred. I'm glad he didn't.

Why is that "not thinking it through"? It's my opinion.

None of us know what the conversations with the coaches/QBs were like last year, the performance on the practice field, or anyone's understanding of the offense was. Therefore none of us can sit here and say someone could "easily have said they have no confidence in me".

Trust me... I'm not trying to flame ya, but I am not sure how this thread has gone 7 pages deep. Ooffda.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Why post this garbage?!! This argument could be made by EVERY scholarship player who isn't starting at EVERY school in America. Why try to plant seeds in the minds of kids and their friends who may read a board like this. Go post something like this in the Ohio State board about one of their 5* guys playing backup.

Agreed. This is a bit silly. Beathard is one play away from being the starter at a B1G school as a redshirt freshman. At minimum, he is the odds-on favorite to be the starter his senior year of college. There is a very good chance he sees meaningful snaps before that, as that would mean Rudock plays the next 2 seasons and 4 games without sustaining an injury. It's possible, but not probable.

It looks like there is some actual depth at the QB position, with Rudock, Beathard and Shimonek redshirting. Why we are so quick to jump the trigger on a guy transferring is beyond me.