HomerChampless
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Just realize Iowa for what it is. Finally, a NCAA tourney team. Not a B1G championship team (unless they win the B1G tournament).
If we don't win the conference this year
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I will take the opinion of Jay Bilas over yours. He said on Wednesday that Iowa is as good as anybody in the country and can win the national title this year.
That is athletic enough for me.
He is the color guy for the game Tuesday night against MSU. I would suggest not watching it unless you want to realize how stupid you are.
hawkforlife9
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Next year we won't have to deal with Marble's amazing inconsistency.
HomerChampless
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Why am I stooped? 'Cause I disagree with you (and Bilas)? Must make you a genius, huh?
hawkeyebob62
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"We'll never make it...we're doomed"--"Glum", Gulliver's Travels cartoon, mid-to-late 1970s
Still think at the end of the day its Michigan's to lose. They get to play MSU on the road when MSU could be down 2 key players. Its setting up nicely for them.
Michigan has posted road wins at Bucky, Goldy and if they take down Sparty on Saturday, they will have beaten 3 of the top 4 Big Ten teams on the road with only Iowa remaining. That gives them a big leg up.
hawkeyebob62
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I gotta say, reading Chumpless's posts is hideously dangerous opportunity to OD on laffy. We're talking keyboard- AND-monitor-at-the-same-time-covered-with-liquid-and-snot levels of laffy here.
--A post from HawkeyeHypnosis...informative...
--A post from JD miller...authoritative...
--A post from OK4P...humorous...
--A post from Chumpless...PRICELESS...
--A post from HawkeyeHypnosis...informative...
--A post from JD miller...authoritative...
--A post from OK4P...humorous...
--A post from Chumpless...PRICELESS...
hawkeyebob62
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Chumpless, you need to venture into the "This Is Not an NCAA Tourney...Guard Play Stinks" thread. Tailor made golden opportunity for your wisdom.
Husky28
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I expect Woody to take a HUGE step forward next year. He was a big time recruit, and with that I believe came unrealistic expectations. It just takes big men longer for their skills to catch up with their body.(see Les Jepsen, Jared Reiner, Erik Hansen etc.) Woody, is farther along at this point in his career than all three of the big men I listed. I have always thought we would not see his true potential until his Jr. year. Woody has the talent. He is physical, he plays pretty good D, and is one of the best passing big men I have seen at Iowa in a long time. He also has a chip on his shoulder and is not intimidated. These are all things that can not be taught. The rest will come. I do believe this.
That being said, we can't have him getting his dunks blocked by the rim any more.
Well played... made me laugh out loud!
skinnykilmer17
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Come on. Seriously? Your comparison of Ogelsby to Gatens is stunning. JO finally has one good shooting game and suddenly this? U havent forgotten just how sh#$!@y those teams were during Gatens' years correct? What would happen if you replaced Gatens with Ogelsby and the defenses keyed solely on him? Think he might have struggled getting off a shot? Kind of like the other night x an entire season.How soon we forget. What Gatens accomplished on those teams is remarkable.And no my first name is not Mike.
skinnykilmer17
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Dropped phone sorry. End the discusson with this? JO never had to play two years with John Lickliter or share a backcourt with him. How would that have gone? LOL
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I just don't see much of a difference between how Gatens played his junior year and how Josh O has played this year. Obviously Josh is playing less minutes but other than that its pretty close.
ibahawkeye
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Wow... You have a short memory.
Matt always had a much more complete floor game than josh who's game is the 3 point shot... Granted he has hit maybe 2 shots this year off the fake, one dribble pull up.
A lot of Matt's floor game was driving the lane and getting stuffed every time. I think Josh is a better passer and a better ball handler than matt was. And like I said earlier, Matt spent his career being the go to guy. If Josh had that roll he would probably attempt the same things Matt attempted during his career.
I bet Fran would say Josh has just as good of a game as Matt did as a junior. He might actually believe it too.
ArvadaHawk
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Husky, this is obviously just speculation on my part, but I envision Jok to be like Stuaskis. We all understand about Jok's injuries in college and whether he can get back to 100%. If he does, then he will be our Stauskis. Man, Stauskis is an excellent player.
clicheusername3
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You're high.
ArvadaHawk
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Jon, I actually did predict Iowa to win the title at 15-3. LOL, not sure the 15-3 holds up after the WUs game, but I still believe they can go 14-4 and win it. I think we can project Iowa winning until the rematch with Minny. If we can get past Minny, the only loss that would be expected would be at MSU. IU is a Jekyl and Hyde team, so that could be iffy, but they are not a consistently good team. They got us twice last season and we owe them.
BTW, great job on your podcasts.
ArvadaHawk
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Hey, clicheusername3, I am not sure how much thought you put into your reply to my comment about Jok, but I hope that isn't at the top end of your abilities. If it is, then I truly apologize for this retort. Come on, you don't have to agree with my opinion, but at least state yours. Then perhaps you can provide the reasons why and how you came to your conclusion. You see, that is how civil discussion are conducted, even on the internet. I'll assume you don't think Jok can be as good as Stauskis and I do. I'll start.Jok has shown the ability to hit the 3 and then take his man off the dribble and get to the rack. Further, Jok has shown glimpses of being able to post up. What Jok has also shown is an ability to rebound and get to the foul line. It is obvious to all that Jok play mostly out of control. But if you watched him in his minutes in B1G conference play, you can see a kid that is growning, in that he is not forcing the issue. Fran is allowing him to "see" the speed of the game and Jok is just letting things come to him and he focuses on his defense. Back to Stauskis: did you see his evolution from a perimeter 3 point shooter, only, last season, to possibly the best combination of perimeter shooter and dribble drive guard in the conference? If the answer is yes, then I really do want to see your reasons for Jok not ever being this type of player because you obviously have great insight into how a player WILL develop during any given off season.
