How much longer does Fran get?

InGoodCo said:
It's not this season for sure - but the last 2 or 3 years it's been considered one of if not the best conference in the country. Think back to how bad the B1G was considered when Alfraud was here and he only made 3 dances in 8 years.
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Actually if you judge it by Final 4..... that time wasn't bad.
 
HawkGold said:
No, but it's not the same as it was then. Plus with the scheduling it's not round robin/ home and away.
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From Lute's first six years, there were 5 Big 10 teams in the Final Four. From Fran's first six years, there were 4 Big 10 teams in the Final Four.

From Lute's first six years, there were 8 Big 10 teams in the Elite Eight. From Fran's first six years, there were 8 Big 10 teams in the Elite Eight.

From Lute's first six years, there were 11 Big 10 teams in the Sweet Sixteen (not including 4 appearances by Maryland and Rutgers as they were not in the Big 10 then). From Fran's first six years, there were 18 Big 10 teams in the Sweet Sixteen.

I'd say they are pretty even as far as the quality of teams.
 
This is the first down year for the B1G in at least 4 or 5 seasons.... kind of expected since turnover ya know. There are a ton of young teams right now which bodes well for it's future.
 
Knight78 said:
From Lute's first six years, there were 5 Big 10 teams in the Final Four. From Fran's first six years, there were 4 Big 10 teams in the Final Four.

From Lute's first six years, there were 8 Big 10 teams in the Elite Eight. From Fran's first six years, there were 8 Big 10 teams in the Elite Eight.

From Lute's first six years, there were 11 Big 10 teams in the Sweet Sixteen (not including 4 appearances by Maryland and Rutgers as they were not in the Big 10 then). From Fran's first six years, there were 18 Big 10 teams in the Sweet Sixteen.

I'd say they are pretty even as far as the quality of teams.
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Not the eyeball test. Iowa, MN, Wisconsin, OSU, MSU had a lot of elite level players. IL did as well. And Purdue.... In my opinion, the Big doesn't have the elite level players...at least not as many as before. Then again the NBA wasn't as easy to access for top players.
 
tweeterhawk said:
Just when you thought the program was headed in the right direction the team gets totally blown out by Northwestern -- North-friggin-western. That should NEVER happen.

How many more stumbles like this does Barta absorb before pulling the trigger?
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Playmaker said:
Tired of hearing about how "Young" we are...maybe it would matter if these "Young" players had the athletic talent to take you to the next level in the years to come...but they don't. Fran has had more than enough time to take us AT LEAST to the Sweet 16, but we are still losing to marginally talented teams several times every season.
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Jesus, it's TWO sports you know nothing about!
 
Robowe said:
Lute's 7th year at Iowa 1980-81, they finished 21-7 overall (13-5 in Big Ten for 2nd place)

Iowa lost 90-68 @ Drake who was 18-11 (10-6 in MVC for 4th place)
Iowa lost 60-48 at home to Minnesota who was 19-11 (9-9 in Big Ten for 5th place)
Iowa lost 79-66 @ Illinois who was 21-8 (12-6 in Big Ten for 3rd place)

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/iowa/1981-schedule.html
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All good, except we crushed Drake that year, not the reverse :) And the NCAA first-round loss was, quite possibly, the catalyst to a series of "comedy of errors" type NCAA appearances, save for the occasional "nice" NCAA runs in the years that followed.

To wit:
--1981: tied, Hawks have ball, miss shot, foul Wichita State, then call TO when we had none left, with almost zero time left. Lose, 60-56
--1982: lose in second round. To Idaho.
1983: Lose in Sweet 16 to Villanova, decent season, but Lute would leave after much "attention" on the program. Folks still disappointed at no "progress" after Final Four season of 1979-80
1984: Raveling's first, no tourney after 12-15 "nightmare"
1985: First-round exit, after having lead on Arkansas
1986: Another first-round exit. Raveling leaves.
1987: Elite Eight...but the last loss STILL agonizing 30 years later. But a monumental season!
1988: Lose by 20 to Arizona in Sweet 16 (to Lute), but did kick UNLV around a round earlier. But with most of 1987 team back, 24-10 kind of a letdown
1989: Another 10-loss season, with a second round loss. To NC State. Seems we have a tough time with them!
1990: 12-16. Nuff said
1991: 21-11, scrape by E Tenn St in first round, crushed by Duke in second.
1992: 19-11, another second round exit at the hands of Duke. Is NCAA starting to feel 'rigged"?
1993: Sad year w/loss of CMS40. Loss in second round to Wake Forest as a 4-seed.
1994: 11-16. Best left "undiscussed"
1995: Last regular season crushing by Indiana may have demoted us to NIT. Lose to PSU, at home, on buzzer-beating 3.
1996: Nice comeback against GW in first-round, bitch-slapped by AZ in second.
1997: Second-round exit to Kentucky. TD got some tough draws in NCAAs
1998: Crunched by Michigan in inaugural BTT, bounced in NIT first round by UGA
1999: Mr. Davis's last season. Sweet 16 after beating Arkansas in second round, lose to eventual Nat'l. Champ. UConn. Also the year Alford takes SW Missouri St. to Sweet 16. Who could've known...

Alford, in eight seasons, makes three NCAAs, one win, a glaring first-round loss as a 3-seed, 2 BTT titles and 3 NITs with only one getting out of the first round.

Lick...well, the less said, the better.

Fran has shown progress. This year hasn't been 'unexpected", and has seen highs and lows to the both extremes.

For those expecting Iowa to be a "power", read up. Glimpses here and there, but for the most part, we have never been "feared' in the Lute-to-present timeline.
 
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