FreedComanche
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Re: Garmon Transferring
Probably not. Remember he's comfortable with everything now.
FreedComanche
Probably not. Remember he's comfortable with everything now.
FreedComanche
Greg Garmon Transferring
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Re: Garmon Transferring
Deep down if anyone couldn't see this wasn't a great fit after a few games of him playing then they are just fooling themselves. Then again injuries the offensive line and the offensive scheme didn't help him either. I guess maybe Garmon wasn't open to a position change who knows maybe they never got that far because maybe he would have been buried in the depth chart at those positions as well. Either way, if he can't beat out the current players at any position then it is better that he leaves for him and the program.
Best of luck to him and his future hopefully he finds success where ever he goes.
Deep down if anyone couldn't see this wasn't a great fit after a few games of him playing then they are just fooling themselves. Then again injuries the offensive line and the offensive scheme didn't help him either. I guess maybe Garmon wasn't open to a position change who knows maybe they never got that far because maybe he would have been buried in the depth chart at those positions as well. Either way, if he can't beat out the current players at any position then it is better that he leaves for him and the program.
Best of luck to him and his future hopefully he finds success where ever he goes.
Re: Garmon Transferring
If you read the article on Scout from Rob Howe that Jon posted it says that Garmon's father said "unrestricted release" was granted, meaning he could play anywhere except another big 10 team and be on scholarship unless the same rules apply to football as it does basketball (Uthoff situation). He would have to sit out a year if he goes to FBS or play right away at FCS.
If you read the article on Scout from Rob Howe that Jon posted it says that Garmon's father said "unrestricted release" was granted, meaning he could play anywhere except another big 10 team and be on scholarship unless the same rules apply to football as it does basketball (Uthoff situation). He would have to sit out a year if he goes to FBS or play right away at FCS.
goods10
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Re: Garmon Transferring
This has given us a special opportunity to truly look into the AIRBHG. Garmon has yet to be seriously injured and he has stayed clean legally since coming to Iowa. The way I see it there was a 100% chance Garmon wouldn't have lasted at Iowa due various reasons. If we see him not get injured or have legal issues at his next stop that all but proves God hates Iowa's RB's. I think we all know how this is going to go.
This has given us a special opportunity to truly look into the AIRBHG. Garmon has yet to be seriously injured and he has stayed clean legally since coming to Iowa. The way I see it there was a 100% chance Garmon wouldn't have lasted at Iowa due various reasons. If we see him not get injured or have legal issues at his next stop that all but proves God hates Iowa's RB's. I think we all know how this is going to go.
hawkfan340
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Re: Garmon Transferring
A Wisconsin running back had a problem like this a few years ago. Montee Ball was his name, I think. Was a part time starter early in his career but then fell to third in the depth chart. Even fell behind even younger players on the roster. He too packed it in and decided the competition wasn't for him, and that's why no one's ever heard from him since.
A Wisconsin running back had a problem like this a few years ago. Montee Ball was his name, I think. Was a part time starter early in his career but then fell to third in the depth chart. Even fell behind even younger players on the roster. He too packed it in and decided the competition wasn't for him, and that's why no one's ever heard from him since.
Makavelihawk
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Re: Garmon Transferring
Yeah, that change to the zone blocking scheme after he committed was unfair to his running style.
Yeah, that change to the zone blocking scheme after he committed was unfair to his running style.
theobserver
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Re: Garmon Transferring
Well it's not a surprise. He burned his redshirt this year to play sparingly. He did get his feet wet but not alot. Then going into next year he's would have been (if all rbs are healthy and nothing changes) behind Weisman and Bullock not necessarily in that order. With also Canzeri back there's no guarantee he is ahead of him after spring. So if you've had a taste of it and clearly think you can play at this level do you see what your options are out there? Because he can either he can stay and be used no more than last yr or possibly not play at all or even god forbid be asked to change to a DB. Or he could go somewhere else redshirt and have 3 yrs to maybe be the man. Him leaving isn't a shocker. I thought I'd read that we also had an Ohio kid visit that has a 6'0 220 lb frame that was a BC commit looking around now... So as long as Canzeri sticks it out and no more injuries happen I'm not hitting the panic button yet.
Well it's not a surprise. He burned his redshirt this year to play sparingly. He did get his feet wet but not alot. Then going into next year he's would have been (if all rbs are healthy and nothing changes) behind Weisman and Bullock not necessarily in that order. With also Canzeri back there's no guarantee he is ahead of him after spring. So if you've had a taste of it and clearly think you can play at this level do you see what your options are out there? Because he can either he can stay and be used no more than last yr or possibly not play at all or even god forbid be asked to change to a DB. Or he could go somewhere else redshirt and have 3 yrs to maybe be the man. Him leaving isn't a shocker. I thought I'd read that we also had an Ohio kid visit that has a 6'0 220 lb frame that was a BC commit looking around now... So as long as Canzeri sticks it out and no more injuries happen I'm not hitting the panic button yet.
Re: Garmon Transferring
Andre Dawson didn't look horrible in the open practice, so at least KF has a plan D after everyone else transfers or gets injured.
Re: Garmon Transferring
I think what Jon and alot of people are saying is hindsight is always 20/20. Garmon and Iowa both thought it was going to be a good fit. Turns out it wasn't no need for people to turn on Garmon or Ferentz.
I think what Jon and alot of people are saying is hindsight is always 20/20. Garmon and Iowa both thought it was going to be a good fit. Turns out it wasn't no need for people to turn on Garmon or Ferentz.
Re: Garmon Transferring
7-5, 7-5, 4-8 (against a crappy Big 10 this year) is reason enough to start turning on KF.
7-5, 7-5, 4-8 (against a crappy Big 10 this year) is reason enough to start turning on KF.
gohawks71
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Re: Garmon Transferring
You know that is the politically correct thing to say. Ferentz just lost another big talent because he couldn't figure out a way to use him.
You know that is the politically correct thing to say. Ferentz just lost another big talent because he couldn't figure out a way to use him.
FreedComanche
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Re: Garmon Transferring
Are you really comparingthis situation to that one ? Wow some people must watch a different type of football than I do. Or they are just born complainers
Re: Garmon Transferring
You are preaching to the choir my friend. My post was in response to a previous post I am wasn't sure if it was poked at Garmon, Ferentz or Jon's previous post, I don't know.
This situation with Garmon was just an unfortunately recruiting flop. I am not calling Garmon a flop but it didn't work out.
You are preaching to the choir my friend. My post was in response to a previous post I am wasn't sure if it was poked at Garmon, Ferentz or Jon's previous post, I don't know.
This situation with Garmon was just an unfortunately recruiting flop. I am not calling Garmon a flop but it didn't work out.
MeatMan
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Re: Garmon Transferring
i know you just want the best RB's available, but don't you think maybe the staff should recruit kids who run between the tackles from now on? scrap recruiting RB's out of the spread systems, thinking you're going to change them into Weisman? might be something to try.
i know you just want the best RB's available, but don't you think maybe the staff should recruit kids who run between the tackles from now on? scrap recruiting RB's out of the spread systems, thinking you're going to change them into Weisman? might be something to try.
Re: Garmon Transferring
I don't think scheme had anything to do with it. Lets play the what if game. If Weisman and Bullock both blew their ACLs in the last game and probably wouldn't play next year and Garmon had a good/great last game and Ferentz says he's the man going into next year. Then he's not leaving. Regardless of the fit. He'd stick it out. Now did he come from an Oregon type of spread in HS I don't remember that being the case? Our running game is pretty running back friendly. We've had all types of runners be successful. Albert Young, Shonn Greene, Freddy Russell and Weisman/Coker (Coker and Weisman seemed similar to me). Those 4 out of 5 guys are all pretty different I don't think scheme matters.
Re: Garmon Transferring
Yeah it's unfortunate that Garmon didn't work out. He could have used a red shirt year in the weight room. Unfortunately most of the other running backs were busy transferring, getting arrested, or getting hurt, so he had to play early. He didn't look ready IMHO.
