Ferentz berating Herman

Clark said:
You think coaches don't have a pretty good grasp on when the cameras are on them? You run five yards on to the field and get in a players face and you think the coach didn't think the camera would be on him?

Every coach gets on players, whether it's in practice or in games. The least they could do is make it so they're not embarassing the player while they're doing it.
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There are cameras everywhere in the stadium. It doesn't have to 5 feet away to see what's going on. You never know when the camera that's 50 yards away is on you.

I'm not saying that Ferentz shouldn't have gone off on Herman. I don't know what Herman did, so I'll give Kirk the benefit of the doubt on that one. But to say he did it the right way because he did it "away from the cameras" is just foolish. He could have easily been caught on camera. But there a big difference between doing it in a place where you can't be caught on camera, and just not getting caught.
 
tm3308 said:
There are cameras everywhere in the stadium. It doesn't have to 5 feet away to see what's going on. You never know when the camera that's 50 yards away is on you.

I'm not saying that Ferentz shouldn't have gone off on Herman. I don't know what Herman did, so I'll give Kirk the benefit of the doubt on that one. But to say he did it the right way because he did it "away from the cameras" is just foolish. He could have easily been caught on camera. But there a big difference between doing it in a place where you can't be caught on camera, and just not getting caught.
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Is this really that hard to comprehend what stormin was trying to relate. Kirk didn't get wrapped up in the moment. He gathered his thoughts and went over and gave the kid some criticism on the bench. Who cares if the cameras could pick it up.
 
AHawk1 said:
Is this really that hard to comprehend what stormin was trying to relate. Kirk didn't get wrapped up in the moment. He gathered his thought and went over and gave the kid some criticism on the bench. Who cares if the cameras could pick it up.
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I don't care if the cameras pick it up or not. I'm sure Herman probably deserved it. But to say he handled it correctly because it was "away from the cameras" is absurd. As a head coach, the only time you're away from the cameras on gameday is when you're in the locker room.

Ferentz typically only gets on a guy like that when their head is clearly not in the game, not giving a full effort, boneheaded penalty, etc. That is what he does correctly. Guys like Pelini will go nuts because of an interception. THAT isn't right, IMO.

Ferentz's demeanor was appropriate. Just don't say he did his ranting away from the cameras. If he were caught on camera, nobody probably makes a big deal out of it because of how he handled it. In that instance, he's not making a big scene (which is the appropriate way to go about it), even though he's on camera.
 
On camera or not, he did it out of plain sight, which is the entire point of my post.

I commend Kirk Ferentz for that approach. I don't find this observation hard to understand or appreciate.
 
storminspank said:
On camera or not, he did it out of plain sight, which is the entire point of my post.

I commend Kirk Ferentz for that approach. I don't find this observation hard to understand or appreciate.
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That's because you're neither obtuse, nor a hater.
 
I have no issue with any coach getting into a players face on camera, never have and never will.

Justin as big a fan as you are of Basketball I find this Thread interesting. Basketball coaches rip into there players all the time right on national television and Iowa coaches do it all the time. Trust me watch this season, Fran certainly isn't holding back.

Called Teaching moments!!
 
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340, all this thread is trying to point out to you is that it was more respectful for KF to get on Herman's case in private were very few people noticed, rather than on national tv in the wide open where 100,000s of people can easily see it. Thats the difference. KF did it behind the scenes. Kelly ripped on a player right as he gets off the field.
 
uofihawkInation said:
340, all this thread is trying to point out to you is that it was more respectful for KF to get on Herman's case in private were very few people noticed, rather than on national tv in the wide open where 100,000s of people can easily see it. Thats the difference. KF did it behind the scenes. Kelly ripped on a player right as he gets off the field.
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It wasn't behind the scenes, it was out in the open. Hence why we're discussing it here. It wasn't brought up by a player or some other type of insider.

I don't know why Ferentz berated him. Maybe he had it coming. But I'm not going to credit Ferentz for doing on bench rather than the sideline. Both are vunerable to the same level of exposure and embarrassment to the player.

I will credit him for doing it different apparent reasons. The preceding play was a successful one for the Hawks, so I'd bet the chewing wasn't for performance, but rather maybe effort or sportsmanship. Other coaches simply seem to go off because a player has a bad play. There's a big difference there.

But there's very little difference between doing it on the bench versus the sideline. So basically I think it's dumb to have umpteen threads about how Coach X is a d-bag, and then have this thread where we praise our coach for berating someone the "right" way. Maybe he berated him for the right reasons, but there's not a significant difference in the way he did it.
 
^^ arguing just for the sake of arguing; has no point; is pedantic and annoying ^^
 
Good catch,Spank. I agree with you. World of difference in confronting a player out on the field vs back by the bench.

As for CJFed...according to Dolph during the broadcast, CJ was injured shortly after his big catch and was being treated on the bench after that.
 
Hawkfromnorwalk said:
Uh Oh. I say 2007 Indiana you say NW...hmmmm....
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Had to be Indiana. I remember it, too, and I remember drinking half a bottle of Dewar's black label before the 2007 NU game so I don't remember much about that game other than Jake throwing darts and seeing some chap wearing number 94 living in the 'Cats backfield every time he was on the field.
 
Indiana in 2007 was beyond embarrassing. Second time in my life that I left a Hawkeye game early because I couldn't bear to watch any more incompetence.
It was my 20-year homecoming game, and my wife's first trip to Kinnick. Sad, disappointing day.
 
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