FBI Trial

News breaking now concerning James Gatto, Merl Code and Christian Dawkins (but not Johnny Laettner) all of Adidas concerning illegal payments to NCAA athletes.
 
tksirius said:
So, if they hadn't tried to hide it, it would have been legal?
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Yes. Massive NCAA violation but legal. Its totally legal for me to drop $100,000 on a recruit to play for Iowa if he pays taxes and its reported. He'll lose his eligibility if we're open about it but neither of us would have broken the law.
 
NoBeer said:
Yes. Massive NCAA violation but legal. Its totally legal for me to drop $100,000 on a recruit to play for Iowa if he pays taxes and its reported. He'll lose his eligibility if we're open about it but neither of us would have broken the law.
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They broke the law....sorta. The FBI labeled the universities as "victims" because they "unknowingly" had kids playing for them that were paid to go there from outside sources.

Its comical, but here's what was illegal about it:

The schools would not have awarded scholarships to those recruits if they had known about the illicit payments, prosecutors argued, and now face possible NCAA sanctions and financial penalties as a result.
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mopkins said:
They broke the law....sorta. The FBI labeled the universities as "victims" because they "unknowingly" had kids playing for them that were paid to go there from outside sources.

Its comical, but here's what was illegal about it:
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MelroseHawkins said:
Exactly. Schools and AD's have figured out that it is worth taking the risk and getting caught every 5 years. Nothing ever happens.
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There's more reasons not to do bad things beyond the possibility of getting caught.

In fact, not doing bad things solely because you might be punished is moral bankruptcy.
 
"The schools would not have awarded scholarships to those recruits if they had known about the illicit payments, prosecutors argued, and now face possible NCAA sanctions and financial penalties as a result."

So if, the NCAA doesn't sanction the "victims" and there are no financial penalties.....
 
KCRC said:
"The schools would not have awarded scholarships to those recruits if they had known about the illicit payments, prosecutors argued, and now face possible NCAA sanctions and financial penalties as a result."

So if, the NCAA doesn't sanction the "victims" and there are no financial penalties.....
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It's basically worded in a way the absolves the universities of any wrong doing. You can bet all those schools are gonna use this ruling as evidence that they didn't know what was going on and we're victimized.

It's a joke
 
mopkins said:
It's basically worded in a way the absolves the universities of any wrong doing. You can bet all those schools are gonna use this ruling as evidence that they didn't know what was going on and we're victimized.

It's a joke
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No, they can't. The NCAA could hit these programs with the hammer because of the assistant coaches involvement. They WON'T. But they could.
 
SamBrownlee48 said:
There's more reasons not to do bad things beyond the possibility of getting caught.

In fact, not doing bad things solely because you might be punished is moral bankruptcy.
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Well let's be real about the issue. Following arbitrary rules issued by slave masters is hardly a matter of morality, but more of a matter about general character.

The biggest thing is the NCAA is wrong for not letting college players receive money. It's stupid and it's ruining the sport because there is no way that everyone agrees or will follow the rule. The NCAA needs to allow players to receive money from private sources and simply put a yearly cap on how much any individual can receive. Something like a 20k cap. Anything beyond that and then you lose eligibility. That alone would level the playing field. Then players aren't deciding where to play based on who will cheat and pay them. Instead they would be choosing the school they actually want to go to since all benefits would be equal.
 
All Adidas and Nike has to do is pick a few random kids on campus at these programs, give them a cash payment in any amount and these programs can say that it's not an illegal benefit, as other kids on campus get similar benefits.
 
Adam said:
Well let's be real about the issue. Following arbitrary rules issued by slave masters is hardly a matter of morality, but more of a matter about general character.

The biggest thing is the NCAA is wrong for not letting college players receive money. It's stupid and it's ruining the sport because there is no way that everyone agrees or will follow the rule. The NCAA needs to allow players to receive money from private sources and simply put a yearly cap on how much any individual can receive. Something like a 20k cap. Anything beyond that and then you lose eligibility. That alone would level the playing field. Then players aren't deciding where to play based on who will cheat and pay them. Instead they would be choosing the school they actually want to go to since all benefits would be equal.
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That is a major straw man argument. The rules are there. Saying a school "has" to pay because the NCAA "should" allow it? No correlation. By rule, all benefits ARE equal. What makes it a non-level playing field is that certain schools cheat. Over and over. With little to no consequence for doing it.

Putting a "cap" on is just saying the schools that cheat now can continue to do so. If they aren't abiding by the rules of not paying players, what makes you think they will observe a "cap"?
 
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