Embarassing. This is freaking Illinois.

I thought it was a good win. The first half was the Iowa that we have been most of the season and the second half was more like what we should be. The lack of pressure against a line of freshman is what has me most concerned.

Pressure with 4 has been a little lacking but but it's more common than not in college fb outside of really great defensive lines. Agreed though, a young line, young non running qb...youd like to see more pressure.

I was amazed how little pressure Wisc got on nebbys qb last night, even when blitzing, against what has been a bad Oline. Last week they had like 7 sacks and 12 pressures against nw.
 
As this game has developed, Iowa has looked worse and worse. Ferentz has one half to wake this freaking team up and come up with an identity for this team.

Let a bad team hang and this is what you get.


Maybe its time to accept the fact that this isn't one of Iowa's best teams... its pretty average ...its inconsistent.

Once you accept that fact, you'll have a sense of serenity and you'll enjoy the season more.
 
Maybe its time to accept the fact that this isn't one of Iowa's best teams... its pretty average ...its inconsistent.

Once you accept that fact, you'll have a sense of serenity and you'll enjoy the season more.
We were projected to win 6.5 games. We are pretty much still holding that serve. Why is everyone expecting so much more. It's a down year. 4-2 with loses to #3 in the nation and at MSU. (Both down to the last play). That is probably everyone's pick at the halfway mark before the season started. Take a step back and look at the big picture.
 
We were projected to win 6.5 games. We are pretty much still holding that serve. Why is everyone expecting so much more. It's a down year. 4-2 with loses to #3 in the nation and at MSU. (Both down to the last play). That is probably everyone's pick at the halfway mark before the season started. Take a step back and look at the big picture.

4-2 is a down year???????????

Are you drunk? Down from what? Is Iowa usually 6-0 at the half way point under KF? Kirk USUALLY wins 7 games.
 
4-2 is a down year???????????

Are you drunk? Down from what? Is Iowa usually 6-0 at the half way point under KF? Kirk USUALLY wins 7 games.[/Jected wins is a down year.
4-2 is a down year???????????

Are you drunk? Down from what? Is Iowa usually 6-0 at the half way point under KFw
4-2 is a down year???????????

Are you drunk? Down from what? Is Iowa usually 6-0 at the half way point under KF? Kirk USUALLY wins 7 games.
6.5 projected wins is a down year. This must be your first year following Iowa. BCS games are the ceiling, bad bowls are the lows. Stay off the booze buddy, it only clouds your judgement.
 
Not only that, they also said no way we could cover the 20, and then when we do cover the 20, we were lucky to do so. Or when we beat ISU we were lucky to do so, or when we almost beat Penn St., we were lucky to do so.

Just how "lucky" is this team?
Not very really otherwise we would be 6-0 at this point if we were really lucky.
 
Not only that, they also said no way we could cover the 20, and then when we do cover the 20, we were lucky to do so. Or when we beat ISU we were lucky to do so, or when we almost beat Penn St., we were lucky to do so.

Just how "lucky" is this team?
Lucky enough to have fans hate on them because they want it more than the coaches/players. Tough (Internet) love.
 
Maybe its time to accept the fact that this isn't one of Iowa's best teams... its pretty average ...its inconsistent.

Once you accept that fact, you'll have a sense of serenity and you'll enjoy the season more.

This is great advice. I've taken it on myself the last few years and I strongly suggest it to others.

Where the problem with your post lies, particularly with the more negative posters, is that this season is exactly what you said: pretty average, inconsistent, not one of Iowa's best teams. But its pretty much on par with every season we've seen at Iowa since 2010 with the exception of 2012 (dumpster fire) and 2015 (fun as hell).

Counting this season, 6/8 Iowa teams have been inconsistent, average, finish the season unranked type of teams. While I think the narrative gets way too negative most of the time with regards to KF, I can't blame fans for not doing cartwheels over most of the seasons Iowa has had lately. We hear a lot about 2017 being a "transition year" some have used "rebuilding year". It looks pretty similar to what we've had. Games where Iowa plays like their lives depend on it (PSU) and others where they're sleepwalking (NT, MSU, Illinois in the 1st half).

Iowa has 6 tough games left. Hopefully they can find a way to get 4 wins out of them and then a bowl win would break the mold that we've seen over most of the last decade and Iowa can end a season ranked somewhere inside the top 25.
 
I don't think anyone does cartwheels for average seasons - 1. this season isn't over 2. Iowa has won 20 games the last two years and 3. most programs fail to even be average every year.
 
You no doubt have some stats to support this seemingly contradictory statement? Wouldn't the definition of average incorporate what most programs do every year?

I'll counter with you telling me what other programs are 24-9 or better over the last 33 games? I bet that list is small
 
IMO you can look at the KF era in 1 of 2 ways, and both of them are valid:

1) At least Iowa isn't a dumpster fire like Minnesota, Nebraska, or Illinois

2) Why hasn't Iowa been as consistent or as successful as Wisconsin

None of us here can control what happens with the football team, so I try to remind myself that we could easily be Illinois right now.
 
since 2015

Iowa - 24-9

These are B1G schools with similar records

PSU 24-9
Wisci 26-6
Michigan 24-7
TOSU 28-4

These are ones that are not.
MSU - 19-12
Northwestern 19-12
IL - 10-19
MN 18-13
Purdue 8-21
Nebraska 18-14
Indiana 15-16
Maryland 12-18
Rutgers 7-22


You could go through every conference in the country - the last couple of years haven't been what every one is wallowing in here on Hawkeyenation.
 
They are 12-9 over their last 21 games. It doesn't get much more average than that.


So, you start your perimeters with Iowa's last 2 losses on 2015? Haha - jesus.

at least be fair about it - let's scope it out to the last year + this year.

Iowa is 12-7

teams that have a better record in the B1G are...

Wisconsin
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan

that's it... that's the end of the list.
 
You're right, it's soooo much different than choosing 12-0 as your starting point.

I at least started at the beginning of a season. Also 12-9 over the last 21 - on it's face looks average or just above it (though it's probably well in the top half of the conference and most power 5's). Take a look at Ferentz's entire time at Iowa and then compare it to the rest of the conference. You'll find about 3 or 4 programs that have been better. But that's average I guess in a 14 team league.
 
IMO you can look at the KF era in 1 of 2 ways, and both of them are valid:

1) At least Iowa isn't a dumpster fire like Minnesota, Nebraska, or Illinois

2) Why hasn't Iowa been as consistent or as successful as Wisconsin

None of us here can control what happens with the football team, so I try to remind myself that we could easily be Illinois right now.
Our AD and coaching staff are the two things that keep us from being at Wisconsin's level. Before people unload on me about who I'd suggest for a new coach, there aren't any available and willing coaches out there right now that I think would do a better job, so you can save those comments. We're effectively stuck with what we have, which is boring, above average but non-contending football. When 5 teams (sometimes 6) are consistently ranked higher than us from the B1G and beat us most of time in head to head match ups, I call that being a non contender. You're opinion may differ.

Wisconsin has a football-minded AD who 1) actually runs the program and 2) knows the game and coaching inside and out. We have a little jellyfish-man of an AD who couldn't lead a bingo night down at the VFW. Ask Rick Heller how much of a spine Barta has after he sent Jane Meyer to deal with issues that should have come across his desk.

Because they have the AD that they do, Wisconsin goes out and gets people to coach who can and will win ball games. What we have is a two decade tenured head coach who runs the program without a supervisor, and is guaranteed tens of millions of dollars. No one can fire him, no one can threaten him, and no one can make him feel the slightest bit uncomfortable. That is a guaranteed recipe for blah, uninspired, middle of the B1G football.

And whatever you do don't whine about recruiting disadvantage. That's a bullshit excuse. If we had a program and staff at the level of WI we'd be able to recruit the same. You want to know why they outdo us year after year with comparable budgets, facilities, and resources? It isn't the players, it's the program from top to bottom. They expect winning football and have accountability to go with it , our program expects .550 winning percentage and has no accountability. Add to that a coach who's been "in Congress" for 20 years with no one to vote him out, and here's what we have. Live with it or don't.

I don't think he's a bad guy or even a bad coach. But his management style from the staff he hires down to the plays being run on the field lead us to where we are and I don't think that him not having a huge guaranteed contract and no accountability helps matters.
 

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