Hawkeye11en1
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Trustafarians are extremely annoying people, aren't they.
That doesn't look like a question.
Trustafarians are extremely annoying people, aren't they.
Those are legal, and aren't performance enhancers.Back on the subj. What then about the use of drugs to make one relax or unwind or take away the pain after a game or exhibition? If you can shoot up before.It is just a bad idea from to bottom, sure to the trickle down as descibed. On a similar topic, What does anyone know about scopolamine?
The thing that bothers me about it is it forces everybody to juice just to compete if most of these guys do it. They are risking their health for short term gain.
why are they legal?
Do you care if they use them?
Personally I dont. I watch sports to see outstanding athletic feets/performances. I could care less what the guys are putting into their bodies to achieve them. They are grown adults. If they want to run the risk of what comes with PED use to perform better so be it. Besides they all use "artificial" or chemical enhamcement anyway. The only difference between creatine or a protien shake and HGH is a fuzzy line someone somewhere drew. All three are designed to boost muscle growth. The difference between someone using amphetimines and 5 hour energy drink is what exactly? Both are stimulants designed to keep you up.
Amature athletes and competitions are a bit different as many are minors and none are paid. But for the pros i say juice up.
Completely wrong. Just wow. Your whole premise is completely flawed and there is no point in trying to explain it to you.I recommend doing a lit search for scholarly articles on the subject. btw--All of these pro athletes had to get to be pros first. Gee, do you think they'd try to get ahead while in college? Think about it.Do you care if they use them?Personally I dont. I watch sports to see outstanding athletic feets/performances. I could care less what the guys are putting into their bodies to achieve them. They are grown adults. If they want to run the risk of what comes with PED use to perform better so be it. Besides they all use "artificial" or chemical enhamcement anyway. The only difference between creatine or a protien shake and HGH is a fuzzy line someone somewhere drew. All three are designed to boost muscle growth. The difference between someone using amphetimines and 5 hour energy drink is what exactly? Both are stimulants designed to keep you up.Amature athletes and competitions are a bit different as many are minors and none are paid. But for the pros i say juice up.
Way to add nothing to an otherwise interesting conversation.
Okay, my apologies. I just think that if you're going to post stuff that's wildly inaccurate, you should expect someone to call you on it.
I'll post unicorns next time.
Okay, my apologies. I just think that if you're going to post stuff that's wildly inaccurate, you should expect someone to call you on it. I'll post unicorns next time.Way to add nothing to an otherwise interesting conversation.
Racer, its duff posting. We are used to it.
Way to add nothing to an otherwise interesting argument.
call me on what??? that the line between legal peds and illegal ones was fuzzy?
I guess my problem is that many athletes play by the rules, but a fair percentage do not.
Ben Johnson is a prime example. Without juice, he was a "good" sprinter, nothing more.
My beef with Track & Field was stuff like "wind-aided", which is an arbitrarily decided number, and more so with "altitude" records. They used to put an "A" next to world records set at high altitude. Are those places still in the world? Of course!
WHERE a record is set shouldn't be an issue, any more than the MLB HR record be an issue for a player who plays in Wrigley versus one who plays at Candlestick or Yankee Stadium.
For "wind-aided", they should at least list those times in their own category. There CAN be an advantage, although there can also be disadvantages (such as hurdlers, who actually do beter with slight headwind versus massive tailwind).
controlled substance... not always fine line between controlled substances and non controlled. alcohol and weed... fuzzy line...
andro is legal to take but a tested for ped. others are similar. the line between protein shakes and hgh is a lot fuzzier than you'd have use believe. if it isn't to you then you aren't thinking for yourself.