DJ Carton - To Iowa?

[Northside Hawk]

I didn't say Iowa lacked talent, I said Iowa could use more talent, which is true.

The historical endings of FranBall's seasons screams for more talent.

You can't have too much.

Unfortunately a lot of our talent was banged up this year, and at the worst times.

With a healthy JBo, Nunge, and Fred (who wasn't himself since before the stress reaction and couldn't cut after that) we break even in conference road games or perhaps go 6-4, which would have won or tied for the B1G this year.

 

[revkev73]

Unfortunately a lot of our talent was banged up this year, and at the worst times.

With a healthy JBo, Nunge, and Fred (who wasn't himself since before the stress reaction and couldn't cut after that) we break even in conference road games or perhaps go 6-4, which would have won or tied for the B1G this year.

Iowa has more talent than in the past, but needs more.

 

[1hawkeye1]

Iowa finished 1-3

I'm aware. Lack of talent wasn't the issue.

 

[1hawkeye1]

I didn't say Iowa lacked talent, I said Iowa could use more talent, which is true.

The historical endings of FranBall's seasons screams for more talent.

You can't have too much.

You absolutely can have too much. Too much leads to lack of playing time for players who deserve more. That leads to chemistry problems.

This link from Scientific American explains it pretty well, and there is plenty of evidence out there to prove that too much talent on one team is detrimental. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-surprising-problem-of-too-much-talent/

Why is too much talent a bad thing? Think teamwork. In many endeavors, success requires collaborative, cooperative work towards a goal that is beyond the capability of any one individual. When a team roster is flooded with individual talent, pursuit of personal star status may prevent the attainment of team goals. The basketball player chasing a point record, for example, may cost the team by taking risky shots instead of passing to a teammate who is open and ready to score.

When JBo and Nunge come back, along with, God willing, Garza and a healthy P-Mac, this team will be absolutely loaded. Additional talent isn't going to help. Chemistry and teamwork is the key.

A little defense wouldn't hurt, either.

 

[revkev73]

You absolutely can have too much. Too much leads to lack of playing time for players who deserve more. That leads to chemistry problems.

This link from Scientific American explains it pretty well, and there is plenty of evidence out there to prove that too much talent on one team is detrimental. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-surprising-problem-of-too-much-talent/

Why is too much talent a bad thing? Think teamwork. In many endeavors, success requires collaborative, cooperative work towards a goal that is beyond the capability of any one individual. When a team roster is flooded with individual talent, pursuit of personal star status may prevent the attainment of team goals. The basketball player chasing a point record, for example, may cost the team by taking risky shots instead of passing to a teammate who is open and ready to score.

When JBo and Nunge come back, along with, God willing, Garza and a healthy P-Mac, this team will be absolutely loaded. Additional talent isn't going to help. Chemistry and teamwork is the key.

A little defense wouldn't hurt, either.

I have never seen an Iowa BB team with too much talent. I doubt I ever will. But your point is valid for several teams filled with top level, future, NBA talent. Iowa ain't one.

Defense...surely you jest!

 

[ssckelley]

You absolutely can have too much. Too much leads to lack of playing time for players who deserve more. That leads to chemistry problems.

This link from Scientific American explains it pretty well, and there is plenty of evidence out there to prove that too much talent on one team is detrimental. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-surprising-problem-of-too-much-talent/

Why is too much talent a bad thing? Think teamwork. In many endeavors, success requires collaborative, cooperative work towards a goal that is beyond the capability of any one individual. When a team roster is flooded with individual talent, pursuit of personal star status may prevent the attainment of team goals. The basketball player chasing a point record, for example, may cost the team by taking risky shots instead of passing to a teammate who is open and ready to score.

When JBo and Nunge come back, along with, God willing, Garza and a healthy P-Mac, this team will be absolutely loaded. Additional talent isn't going to help. Chemistry and teamwork is the key.

A little defense wouldn't hurt, either.

I wonder how teams like Duke, Kentucky, and North Carolina can ever win a game with all that talent they collect year in and year out.

 

[HawkGold]

You absolutely can have too much. Too much leads to lack of playing time for players who deserve more. That leads to chemistry problems.

This link from Scientific American explains it pretty well, and there is plenty of evidence out there to prove that too much talent on one team is detrimental. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-surprising-problem-of-too-much-talent/

Why is too much talent a bad thing? Think teamwork. In many endeavors, success requires collaborative, cooperative work towards a goal that is beyond the capability of any one individual. When a team roster is flooded with individual talent, pursuit of personal star status may prevent the attainment of team goals. The basketball player chasing a point record, for example, may cost the team by taking risky shots instead of passing to a teammate who is open and ready to score.

When JBo and Nunge come back, along with, God willing, Garza and a healthy P-Mac, this team will be absolutely loaded. Additional talent isn't going to help. Chemistry and teamwork is the key.

A little defense wouldn't hurt, either.

Does a loaded team that doesn't have a lightning quick/good defender/ threat to score point guard have too much talent?

 

[ohhawk]

https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/basketball/d-j-carton-wants-ball-chance-to-impress-nba-scouts

 

[PCHawk]

https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/basketball/d-j-carton-wants-ball-chance-to-impress-nba-scouts

Sounds like he wants to play on a team that sucks so he can be the man. Do. Not. Want.

 

[RobHowe]

WHOLE LOT of speculation in that article.

 

[revkev73]

WHOLE LOT of speculation in that article.

Speculation, the foundation of our culture.

 

[CP87]

I have never seen an Iowa BB team with too much talent. I doubt I ever will. But your point is valid for several teams filled with top level, future, NBA talent. Iowa ain't one.

Defense...surely you jest!

Maybe a better way to think about it...you don't want too many talented guys who all have the same talent level. The lack of hierarchy makes it difficult to establish a viable team culture.

You want Superstar A, second-tier stars B and C, and then role players D-H who all know that they need to accept lesser responsibilities and perform those duties exceptionally well in order to share in the glory.

Not sure if that is correct or not, but it is pretty rare to see a successful team built from 5 guys with really similar talent levels.

 

[revkev73]

Maybe a better way to think about it...you don't want too many talented guys who all have the same talent level. The lack of hierarchy makes it difficult to establish a viable team culture.

You want Superstar A, second-tier stars B and C, and then role players D-H who all know that they need to accept lesser responsibilities and perform those duties exceptionally well in order to share in the glory.

Not sure if that is correct or not, but it is pretty rare to see a successful team built from 5 guys with really similar talent levels.

Concur...we are herd animals, everyone needs to be able to identify the "Alpha Mare."

Luka "The Diesel" Garza is the Big Mare.

CMAC has the snark to be the Deputy Mare.

JT also has some "Alpha Mare" in him, for future herd dynamics.

If the others fall in place, it will be a happy herd.

IMHO the Cook/Moss tandem was bad for "Herd Dynamics" and the team has better chemistry without them and their need to take way too many shots.

 

[koralakers]

You absolutely can have too much. Too much leads to lack of playing time for players who deserve more. That leads to chemistry problems.

This link from Scientific American explains it pretty well, and there is plenty of evidence out there to prove that too much talent on one team is detrimental. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-surprising-problem-of-too-much-talent/

Why is too much talent a bad thing? Think teamwork. In many endeavors, success requires collaborative, cooperative work towards a goal that is beyond the capability of any one individual. When a team roster is flooded with individual talent, pursuit of personal star status may prevent the attainment of team goals. The basketball player chasing a point record, for example, may cost the team by taking risky shots instead of passing to a teammate who is open and ready to score.

When JBo and Nunge come back, along with, God willing, Garza and a healthy P-Mac, this team will be absolutely loaded. Additional talent isn't going to help. Chemistry and teamwork is the key.

A little defense wouldn't hurt, either.

Tell this to Duke, Kentucky, Mich St, Kansas, etc who go 27-6 EVERY year, decade after decade. They don’t mind having too much talent one bit

 

[1hawkeye1]

Tell this to Duke, Kentucky, Mich St, Kansas, etc who go 27-6 EVERY year, decade after decade. They don’t mind having too much talent one bit

Those teams don't have too much talent. They just enough in the right places. When JBo, and the rest return. Iowa will too.

 

[Zstatman]

DJ could be 'da man' at Drake, that would be interesting.

It will be really interesting if DJ successfully uses his mental health to gain immediate eligibility. If so I could see him going to either ISU or Nebraska. I'm still wondering what's going on at ISU with all the transfers.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Teams like Duke and Kansas and Kentucky have crazy talent, but they usually only play 8 guys.

Like it or not, Fran has a history of playing his entire bench when he can. Iowa can go 9 deep with Big 10 level talent without even touching its incoming class.

I would rather take the historically (for Iowa) good returning talent Iowa has on its roster right now, and continue to build upon the great team chemistry and developing a role for each returning guy. In fact, assuming health for all, I not only do not want this kid, I would be fine if most, if not the entire, freshmen class took a redshirt.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Speculation, the foundation of our culture.

Especially sports..

 

[Hawkfnntn]

https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/basketball/d-j-carton-wants-ball-chance-to-impress-nba-scouts

Drake? I mean Nebraska, IL, ISU I understand but Drake? How does a writer throw that in there? I can see UNI not being on there they got Bowen Born coming in. I think he'll be a Dean Oliverish kind of player maybe better scoring wise. He has a better outside shot.

 

[revkev73]

You absolutely can have too much. Too much leads to lack of playing time for players who deserve more. That leads to chemistry problems.

This link from Scientific American explains it pretty well, and there is plenty of evidence out there to prove that too much talent on one team is detrimental. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-surprising-problem-of-too-much-talent/

Why is too much talent a bad thing? Think teamwork. In many endeavors, success requires collaborative, cooperative work towards a goal that is beyond the capability of any one individual. When a team roster is flooded with individual talent, pursuit of personal star status may prevent the attainment of team goals. The basketball player chasing a point record, for example, may cost the team by taking risky shots instead of passing to a teammate who is open and ready to score.

When JBo and Nunge come back, along with, God willing, Garza and a healthy P-Mac, this team will be absolutely loaded. Additional talent isn't going to help. Chemistry and teamwork is the key.

A little defense wouldn't hurt, either.

Yes, a little defense is always helpful.

Fran's "Social Distancing Zone" often leads to big runs by the opponents.