HawkeyeWalker
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So you don't know, but you know he's below avg. Got it.
Bohannon crow anyone?
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So you don't know, but you know he's below avg. Got it.
Shooting 34% from 3 is below average
HawkeyeWalker
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Maybe, but link?
HawkeyeHypnosis
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Who cares? Horner shot 27% his freshman year. Something happens when you get to play and grow up, you get better.
Hawkalum2002
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http://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/stats/2017/Averages/Qualified/Fr/Season/All/tpfg_pct/desc/2
This site lets you switch by class. JB is 156th in frosh 3 point %, Moss is 165th (he was ahead of JB until last game). When you take out guys that average less than 2 three point attempts per game, they are 126th and 131st as freshman. JB is at .357 for threes though, perfectly acceptable, although inflated by his couple good non-conference games. He is only .316 in the B10 which is fine if he shot only a couple per game, a bit of a problem when you shoot over 5 times. One good game and that still jumps closer to his overall average though. Moss is at .353 overall, but only .286 in conference. The difference is he's only shot 14 3s in conference, so not as big an issue.
This site lets you switch by class. JB is 156th in frosh 3 point %, Moss is 165th (he was ahead of JB until last game). When you take out guys that average less than 2 three point attempts per game, they are 126th and 131st as freshman. JB is at .357 for threes though, perfectly acceptable, although inflated by his couple good non-conference games. He is only .316 in the B10 which is fine if he shot only a couple per game, a bit of a problem when you shoot over 5 times. One good game and that still jumps closer to his overall average though. Moss is at .353 overall, but only .286 in conference. The difference is he's only shot 14 3s in conference, so not as big an issue.
Adam
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Agreed. Bohannon has taken a handful of deep 3's very early in the offense. He might grow into the kind of shooter that can do that stuff but as of right now he should be sticking to the open looks from the motion action. Who really knows what Fran is telling him to do though. Fran likes his shooters to be aggressive. I have heard him say countless times that certain guys should be taking more shots. All in all I still think Jbo is a solid player who will end up in the top quarter of BIG 10 PG's by time he is an upperclassmen. It's my hope that he puts it all together by his Junior year so we can reap the benefits for 2 seasons. Giving time for Conner and Wieskamp time to settle in.
Out of how many freshman?
Hawkalum2002
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Their data shows 387 overall, it looks like roughly 280 that average more than 2 attempts per game so he's right about the 50 percentile. JB averages the 11th most 3 attempts per game out of all freshman this year.
That number needs to come down
Robowe
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Do you think Jordan is selfishly taking those shots? Should the coaches tell him to shoot less? Should his teammates run the plays better so they are open for passes rather than shots for him? When the shot clock runs down, should he just pass it to someone else to take the shot at that point? Since they don't run plays for the PG to get shots very often, how should that number go down? I am curious how the shots come down.
Yes
Adam
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This is a good point. I would be interested to see those metrics.
31st in Adjusted Tempo. He has the second most shots on the team, that is a bad thing. I'm surprised people are even arguing that.
It's not like other people are passing up scoring opportunities. Without looking up stats and just thinking about flow of game, who do you think isn't shooting enough because they are passing up shots?
Robowe
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That's easy to say - and may already have been said. However, some of the other factors (teammates getting open, defense the opponent is playing, shot clock running down, etc.) also matter, correct? Remember last game when JBo had a turnover, then Baer stole the ball back and passed to Jbo who backed up behind the 3 point line and shot it and made it? Should he have shot that? And, you don't get to answer yes because he made it.
Baer, Pemsl, Moss and Ellignson should be shooting more
He should only shoot open shots, he's missing contested ones. I'm not saying he shouldn't shoot at all but he's proven he's not a great shooter and has the second most attempts on the team. He's shooting 34% from the floor, he needs to limit his attempts
Adam
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He was open...so yes put it up youngster. I cringe when I see the forced 3's either from silly deep range or hand in the face. Broken plays or lose ball situations often lead to open 3's. Historically it's a higher percentage 3 point attempt. I wish we would switch up our fast break from time to time to send shooters to the wing instead of crashing the basket. It's easy 3 point offense.
Robowe
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So, do you think Jordan has an issue knowing what an open shot is compared to a contested shot? And, do you think he wants to shoot contested shots?
