Are you personally worried about getting the Coronavirus?

Are you personally worried about catching the Coronavirus?

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 41.0%

  • No

    Votes: 59 59.0%
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haydensly said:
368 people died in Italy today from the coronavirus. If you extrapolate that to the population of the United States, that is approximately 2,000 people. That is a lot of people for one day, regardless of what rate it is.

I hope we don't get to the level that they have it in Italy. But the measures that are being taken today are done in an effort to avoid that situation. This is not hype.
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We're in better shape than Italy as far as risk factors.

Italy has the oldest population in Europe with a median age of 47.3 compared to the US that has a median population of 38.3.

Italy also has 23% of their population older than 65, which also is the highest in Europe. They also have 532 people per square mile, where the US has 92.9 people per square mile.

Italy also has 23.7 percent of their population that smokes, where the US has 15.1 percent that smokes.
 
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There's transmission, then there's sequela.

COVID-19 has an impressive transmission rate.
COVID-19 has a mild sequela.

Thus, no need for hysteria of the transmission.
 
For anyone not concerned about Coronavirus....God have mercy on your soul. The studies have been posted long enough. It is a brand new viral with the potential to spread as aggressively as a plague. It has also already mutated once during its outbreak phase. In case you aren't aware this is very uncommon. We should all be passed the point of idle worry.
 
I just don't want things to get to the point where Drs have to decide on the spot whether someone lives or dies due to the system being slammed and overwhelmed with cases. And in a place where true access to health care is already limited that's a very real possibility.
 
SmokeTownHawk said:
I just don't want things to get to the point where Drs have to decide on the spot whether someone lives or dies due to the system being slammed and overwhelmed with cases. And in a place where true access to health care is already limited that's a very real possibility.
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We have about 1 million hospital bed capacity total. Reasonably we could add another 1 million field facilities over the next 45 days. If we pass that number of critical care then the real scary shit starts to happen. America's and any nations primary concern right now isn't actually the individual lives lost to the virus, but in fact the real risk of a collapse of society. Once the medical capacity fails things start to spiral towards anarchy. In quite a few of the computer simulations starvation and known sanitary diseases kill just as many as the pandemic disease it's self. Our supply chains are not yet automated meaning human energy is still required. There is serious doubts that a human population can maintain such supply demands under a rampant outbreak and a collapse of the medical system.
 
Any one have any symptoms yet? I suppose if went to the doc they'd just tell me it's the "flu". But it's better not to waste their time if your healthy otherwise.
 
hoxrock said:
No I am not worried. Most people will get it or already do have it and don't know. Those will strong immune systems will be able to fight it off easier, those who do not will have issues. But that is the case with most viruses. Frankly, the silver lining of getting the virus is your body can learn to recognize it and fight it off, in the event this is something you can get more than once. If we had an intelligent society the shelves would be cleared of vitamins or products rich in vitamin C so one can strengthen their immune system, not toilet paper. Alas we do not live in an overall intelligent society, rather one filled with alot of bungling idiots willing to fall for anything and not think for themselves and that is what worries me more than a stupid virus.
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There is no evidence that taking large doses of any vitamin, including vitamin C, boosts your immune system.
 
CP87 said:
There is no evidence that taking large doses of any vitamin, including vitamin C, boosts your immune system.
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No, but it might make you need to take heroic actions.

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99topdawg said:
We're in better shape than Italy as far as risk factors.

Italy has the oldest population in Europe with a median age of 47.3 compared to the US that has a median population of 38.3.

Italy also has 23% of their population older than 65, which also is the highest in Europe. They also have 532 people per square mile, where the US has 92.9 people per square mile.

Italy also has 23.7 percent of their population that smokes, where the US has 15.1 percent that smokes.
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I agree with everything you said. Facts are facts. I hope we don't end up like Italy.

That said, the Surgeon General warned today that we may end up like Italy. Hopes for an outcome like South Korea instead. A lot depends on what we do now to safeguard ourselves and that takes everyone.
 
Adam said:
We have about 1 million hospital bed capacity total. Reasonably we could add another 1 million field facilities over the next 45 days. If we pass that number of critical care then the real scary shit starts to happen. America's and any nations primary concern right now isn't actually the individual lives lost to the virus, but in fact the real risk of a collapse of society. Once the medical capacity fails things start to spiral towards anarchy. In quite a few of the computer simulations starvation and known sanitary diseases kill just as many as the pandemic disease it's self. Our supply chains are not yet automated meaning human energy is still required. There is serious doubts that a human population can maintain such supply demands under a rampant outbreak and a collapse of the medical system.
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I can easily see military MASH-like units being set up, especially in major population centers. I believe the news conference today briefly alluded to that. I have a good friend whose a NP saying that NYC metro is already at the point of needing something like that, just due to the sheer number of people concentrated in that area.
 
Adam said:
For anyone not concerned about Coronavirus....God have mercy on your soul. The studies have been posted long enough. It is a brand new viral with the potential to spread as aggressively as a plague. It has also already mutated once during its outbreak phase. In case you aren't aware this is very uncommon. We should all be passed the point of idle worry.
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Coronaviruses have been around a long time.
 
Younger people that are unconcerned about the virus because it is generally easy to get over at their age continue to go out to bars or dinner and effectively all become typhoid mary spreading this to everyone else. Thanks for that!
 
tksirius said:
Yeah, ok :rolleyes:

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Obviously Vit C is important for immune function, that was never debated. What I said was that taking extra-large doses of Vit C (supra-saturating doses) has no benefit. However, you are right in questioning that as well. I was familiar with the famous Linus Pauling claims of Vit C benefits, most of which were debunked:

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-vitamin-c-myth.html

This has been taught to me in numerous classes/textbooks. But it looks like more recent work is supporting role of Vit C supplementation in immune boosting. Thanks for causing me to look into this a bit further:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29099763

@hoxrock, you were right.
 
The Casinos and hotels on the Las Vegas Strip are shutting down and no in dining at any McDonald's or Chick -Fil-A's in America, but the drive thrus will remain open. Those will be some long ass lines to wait in. This country is going into full mode shut down
 
haydensly said:
I agree with everything you said. Facts are facts. I hope we don't end up like Italy.

That said, the Surgeon General warned today that we may end up like Italy. Hopes for an outcome like South Korea instead. A lot depends on what we do now to safeguard ourselves and that takes everyone.
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I certainly hope that doesn't happen. We haven't seen the end of it here or in Italy. I would like to see numbers from a country similar to ours that got it before ours.
 
CP87 said:
Obviously Vit C is important for immune function, that was never debated. What I said was that taking extra-large doses of Vit C (supra-saturating doses) has no benefit. However, you are right in questioning that as well. I was familiar with the famous Linus Pauling claims of Vit C benefits, most of which were debunked:

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-vitamin-c-myth.html

This has been taught to me in numerous classes/textbooks. But it looks like more recent work is supporting role of Vit C supplementation in immune boosting. Thanks for causing me to look into this a bit further:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29099763

@hoxrock, you were right.
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TJHawkeye said:
Younger people that are unconcerned about the virus because it is generally easy to get over at their age continue to go out to bars or dinner and effectively all become typhoid mary spreading this to everyone else. Thanks for that!
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If young people want to go to bars, that's fine by me as long as they know to stay away from high risk people. More importantly, high risk people should be staying away from absolutely everyone.
 
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