Are we the third best team in Iowa?

[deanvogs]

Vinny Testaverde is 11th all time in passing yards and has 6,000 more yards than Joe Montana. So clearly he's the better passer right??

Also ISU has slipped even more spots in the RPI and are at #125 currently. They have A LOT OF WORK to do to get a NCAA resume at this point. I don't see it happening if they don't get to 10-8 with at least 1 win in the Big12 tournament.

 

[DP5555]

Vinny Testaverde is 11th all time in passing yards and has 6,000 more yards than Joe Montana. So clearly he's the better passer right??

Clearly. Since the stats say so. Everyone knows this (meaning one person), and you're an idiot if you suggest otherwise.

 

[PCHawk]

Also ISU has slipped even more spots in the RPI and are at #125 currently. They have A LOT OF WORK to do to get a NCAA resume at this point. I don't see it happening if they don't get to 10-8 with at least 1 win in the Big12 tournament.

They need 10-8 and we need 11-7 but are playing better right now. If I had to bet on one team miking it, I honestly don't know which one I would bet on. If Iowa would have beaten Omaha, it would be a no brainer.

 

[NikeHawk21]

Mike's career eFG% and career TS% is better than Bohannon's this year

/thread I guess?

Update:
JBo - TS- 48.8% eFG- 45.6%
MG (career) - TS- 48.3% eFG- 44.3%

You see how volatile these statistics can be when a player is just over 10 games into his career?

Since becoming the starter:
12.8ppg/ 5.1 assists/ 2.5 TOs
36.9% FG/ 42.2% 3pt

Now quite frankly I thought JBo had a pretty poor game last night outside of the scoring. He had a tough time handling ND's pressure and physicality. He had 3 TOs but easily could have had 6 that I remember. I said during the ISU game that he's having a tough time getting us into our sets, most of the time he's passing from near mid court. Hopefully he will continue to improve in that area.

 

[deanvogs]

Update:
JBo - TS- 48.8% eFG- 45.6%
MG (career) - TS- 48.3% eFG- 44.3%

You see how volatile these statistics can be when a player is just over 10 games into his career?

Since becoming the starter:
12.8ppg/ 5.1 assists/ 2.5 TOs
36.9% FG/ 42.2% 3pt

Now quite frankly I thought JBo had a pretty poor game last night outside of the scoring. He had a tough time handling ND's pressure and physicality. He had 3 TOs but easily could have had 6 that I remember. I said during the ISU game that he's having a tough time getting us into our sets, most of the time he's passing from near mid court. Hopefully he will continue to improve in that area.

I about posted these this morning. It is funny because 56 lived and died by one single little statistic, that is gonna come back to bite you. The crazy thing is anyone with eyes that watches BB can see that Jordan is in the same ballpark as Mike as a Fr. Some might think slightly worse, or slightly better, but for sure right around where Mike was. 56 is the only person who tries to say that Mike was waaaaayyyyyyy better than Jordan as a Fr.

 

[PCHawk]

I about posted these this morning. It is funny because 56 lived and died by one single little statistic, that is gonna come back to bite you. The crazy thing is anyone with eyes that watches BB can see that Jordan is in the same ballpark as Mike as a Fr. Some might think slightly worse, or slightly better, but for sure right around where Mike was. 56 is the only person who tries to say that Mike was waaaaayyyyyyy better than Jordan as a Fr.

If JB was the former player and Mike was the incoming freshman, 5656 would be on and on about how much better JB was and how much Mike sucks. Rival fan bases like to downplay current players and over exaggerate how much past players will be missed.

 

[Hawk5656]

If JB was the former player and Mike was the incoming freshman, 5656 would be on and on about how much better JB was and how much Mike sucks. Rival fan bases like to downplay current players and over exaggerate how much past players will be missed.

Except I always said Mike was above average when he was a current player...

 

[DP5555]

Except I always said Mike was above average when he was a current player...

You are wrong as often as CyTwins. If you aren't actually him then I'm going to throw you in the same boat as him. Please keep trashing Iowa players and recruits. Every time CyTwins would do that they would turn out to be really good. That trend seems like it could very well be the same with you. Hate on sir! Hate away!

 

[Hawk5656]

You are wrong as often as CyTwins. If you aren't actually him then I'm going to throw you in the same boat as him. Please keep trashing Iowa players and recruits. Every time CyTwins would do that they would turn out to be really good. That trend seems like it could very well be the same with you. Hate on sir! Hate away!

What recruits have I trashed? I said I loved Cook, I love Garza and Wieskamp. Also liked Pemsl. I think Connor and Nunge will be just fine, probably decent role players. Didn't like the Bohannon signing but most didn't. Thought the 2014 and 2015 classes were bad and they were

 

[deanvogs]

What recruits have I trashed? I said I loved Cook, I love Garza and Wieskamp. Also liked Pemsl. I think Connor and Nunge will be just fine, probably decent role players. Didn't like the Bohannon signing but most didn't. Thought the 2014 and 2015 classes were bad and they were

Weird if most had a problem with it, why is it only you who continues to bash him and put him down all the time? Why don't you talk more about the ones you liked then? You have a problem with 1 recruit and you won't talk about anything else......hmmmmm, I wonder why that is?

 

[Hawk5656]

Weird if most had a problem with it, why is it only you who continues to bash him and put him down all the time? Why don't you talk more about the ones you liked then? You have a problem with 1 recruit and you won't talk about anything else......hmmmmm, I wonder why that is?

I only bash him when people talk about how good he has been plus I don't consider it bashing someone by pointing out facts. When you said Mike wasn't a good defender, that was bashing him because that was a lie

 

[deanvogs]

I only bash him when people talk about how good he has been plus I don't consider it bashing someone by pointing out facts. When you said Mike wasn't a good defender, that was bashing him because that was a lie

Mike was a good defender by his Sr. year. He wasn't anywhere near as good his Fr. year as he was later in his career. Sorry, but that's a fact.

It is also a fact that Jordan is averaging more PPG, APG, and is shooting better from 3 Pt range, and the FT line, and has a much better Assist/TO ratio than Mike did as a Fr. Those are facts. Mike was a better defender, and turned the ball over less. Those are facts.

 

[deanvogs]

I only bash him when people talk about how good he has been plus I don't consider it bashing someone by pointing out facts. When you said Mike wasn't a good defender, that was bashing him because that was a lie

Also why do you think you need to bash on him if others like him, or think he is doing a good job or will do a good job???? That is like really weird. I can see doing that to a Clown player, but one of your how? What is the point?

Oh, that's right, you aren't an Iowa fan, no Iowa fan would do what you do.

 

[Hawk5656]

Mike was a good defender by his Sr. year. He wasn't anywhere near as good his Fr. year as he was later in his career. Sorry, but that's a fact.

It is also a fact that Jordan is averaging more PPG, APG, and is shooting better from 3 Pt range, and the FT line, and has a much better Assist/TO ratio than Mike did as a Fr. Those are facts. Mike was a better defender, and turned the ball over less. Those are facts.

Mike was always considered a good defender even going back to his recruitment

 

[kwah]

So are you going to answer Dean's question? What is the point?

 

[PCHawk]

Also why do you think you need to bash on him if others like him, or think he is doing a good job or will do a good job???? That is like really weird. I can see doing that to a Clown player, but one of your how? What is the point?

Oh, that's right, you aren't an Iowa fan, no Iowa fan would do what you do.

That's what's funny. We are on a Hawkeye message board talking about a team that we are "all" fans of, but he spends all of his time trying to convince everyone how much one player sucks. Even if it were true, why try to convince everyone? Does he make it his personal goal to make sure all kids know Santa isn't real too?

 

[Hawk5656]

So are you going to answer Dean's question? What is the point?

Because I had multiple people call me a troll for saying we'd take a step back at the PG position

 

[deanvogs]

Because I had multiple people call me a troll for saying we'd take a step back at the PG position

You are a troll because you are a troll, not because of anything else. Lots of posters think Bohannon is a step back, lots of poster think Fran walking off the court is Bush league. Nobody else trolls those topics but you.

So once again, What's the point?

 

[kwah]

Because I had multiple people call me a troll for saying we'd take a step back at the PG position

..And Bohannon continues to prove you wrong. Yet you continue to bash him. So what's the point? I think you are a clown with a delusion of grandeur. You had this grand plan set up for months to troll Iowa fans with the climax being the Clowns kicking Iowa's ass at Carver. After all, ISU is a basketball school( by default). Bohannon was the obvious target since he is from small town Iowa and you guys have Monte, the All American. The Iowa freshmen outplayed your overrated team and kicked their ass back to Ames. To make it sweeter Bohannon hit a huge three down the stretch. Your (along with Naz and Monte) grand plan is ruined so now you are butt hurt. Sound about right? It's either this or he stole your sister's virginity.

 

[Hawk5656]

..And Bohannon continues to prove you wrong. Yet you continue to bash him. So what's the point? I think you are a clown with a delusion of grandeur. You had this grand plan set up for months to troll Iowa fans with the climax being the Clowns kicking Iowa's ass at Carver. After all, ISU is a basketball school( by default). Bohannon was the obvious target since he is from small town Iowa and you guys have Monte, the All American. The Iowa freshmen outplayed your overrated team and kicked their ass back to Ames. To make it sweeter Bohannon hit a huge three down the stretch. Your (along with Naz and Monte) grand plan is ruined so now you are butt hurt. Sound about right? It's either this or he stole your sister's virginity.

How has Bohannon proved me wrong? He's actually worse defensively than I expected