MoseSchrute
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We are Iowa. We do not use crazy outlandish formations like that.
AJ Derby leaves Iowa
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gohawkz
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That's 100% a lie. Another poster already posted a link proving that. A.J himself said as much in the article.
He was never considered a qb by anyone with a brain. Everyone knew it, including the Iowa coaches, they made sure he came here by promising a chance, which he got and failed.
He was a very special athlete who could have went pretty much anywhere to play defense. If it wasn't for that ability he wouldn't be a div 1 player for anyone. He's simply not a qb. I've never seen anybody who's an expert on evaluating talent talk about him as a qb, just an athlete.
I hope for his sake this isn't about playing qb, because if it is he took a lot of God given talent and flushed it down the toilet.
83Hawk
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A trend is developing, and I don't like it. This BS is 100% on Kirk. So Derby wasn't going to be a QB. He was a gifted athlete. He needed to be on the field SOMEWHERE. Other schools do it. But no...not Kirk. Instead of using Derby's talent, he makes him a linebacker...but then doesn't play him.
Brilliant.
Cue the "Kirk does no wrong" crowd in 3...2...1...
1hawkeye1
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This one I could see coming months ago. Kid kept sliding down the depth chart and switching positions. I think a transfer is his best option.
I wish him well.
Hawkeye11en1
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Plus the fact that he was a redshirt freshman....
Well you can go ahead and label me part of the "Kirk does no wrong" crowd all you want, but you are making no sense 83. The entire roster is full of "gifted athletes"...Derby was a RS Fr who switched positions (and went from O to D, no less!) and you are clamoring to get him on the field? Makes no sense...
DuffMan
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hawksr12004
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A few thoughts here. The Derby's switched high schools in Iowa City to gain more
exposure from Division I schools and it proved to be a decision that worked for him.
He wants to play QB and it isn't going to happen at Iowa. The clock is ticking on
AJ's college career. It wasn't a given that a LB position was going to come easy
for him. I wish him well and I think the extra scholly will be a help to the Hawks.
exposure from Division I schools and it proved to be a decision that worked for him.
He wants to play QB and it isn't going to happen at Iowa. The clock is ticking on
AJ's college career. It wasn't a given that a LB position was going to come easy
for him. I wish him well and I think the extra scholly will be a help to the Hawks.
bcl20
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I wonder if you can see the irony in your post.
Also a member of your generation is whining because a college football player doesn't want to play for his favorite team.
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DesMoinesHawki
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I say good luck to AJ. He seems committed to playing quarterback during his college career. You can't fault him for wanting to try a different setting where he might get that opportunity. I think he understood that he was not going to ever be the starting quarterback at Iowa.
I don't think any of this falls on the coaches. In fact, I think the coaches tried hard to let AJ show he can be a Big 10 quarterback ... But it didn't work out like either party had hoped. So, AJ decides to move. Good for him. I was not upset by it at all. It is not up to me or any of us to judge AJ's actions in this case. He only gets one chance to play college football so hopefully he will find the right fit for him.
I don't think any of this falls on the coaches. In fact, I think the coaches tried hard to let AJ show he can be a Big 10 quarterback ... But it didn't work out like either party had hoped. So, AJ decides to move. Good for him. I was not upset by it at all. It is not up to me or any of us to judge AJ's actions in this case. He only gets one chance to play college football so hopefully he will find the right fit for him.
83,
A trend indeed open up your eyes and see the number of transfer that continue to increase it seems all over the country. He didn't want to play LB, fine tell the coaches you want to stay at QB and work your *** off to prove you can play there. Or trust the coaches and play LB get better learn the position and help the F'ing team win. Its that simple. If he truly felt he couldn't do what the coaches asked of him or wanted to play QB at a FCS school so be it.
People act like he was the second coming with 1 tackle on ST. Don't get me wrong I think the kid has talent but if he didn't want to stick it out so be it. Only time will tell if things work out on his end and by him leaving it opens up a spot for someone that wants to wear the black/gold and help the team win.
The only reason why people are making a big stink about this is due to Coker's situation, McCall's and the fact hes a home town boy and his dad played here.
A trend indeed open up your eyes and see the number of transfer that continue to increase it seems all over the country. He didn't want to play LB, fine tell the coaches you want to stay at QB and work your *** off to prove you can play there. Or trust the coaches and play LB get better learn the position and help the F'ing team win. Its that simple. If he truly felt he couldn't do what the coaches asked of him or wanted to play QB at a FCS school so be it.
People act like he was the second coming with 1 tackle on ST. Don't get me wrong I think the kid has talent but if he didn't want to stick it out so be it. Only time will tell if things work out on his end and by him leaving it opens up a spot for someone that wants to wear the black/gold and help the team win.
The only reason why people are making a big stink about this is due to Coker's situation, McCall's and the fact hes a home town boy and his dad played here.
Billso
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No kidding. What coach is going to switch a kid to a completely different (and challenging) position mid-season and play him right away?
Even Zook isn't that dumb.Not one of the smarter posts seen in these parts.
Take the blinders off sir ; your post is lacking !
FromFry2Ferentz
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Its one thing to lose a player but to lose a legacy recruit who grew up in Iowa City and whos bro also plays for the Hawks is just mind boggling.
Listen, AJ made a really bad decision to come to Iowa. He listened to his heart, when he should have looked at it more rationally. There was NO WAY Iowa was going to change their scheme to one where AJ could be fully effective as a signal caller. It would have been like trying to fit Tebow into The Hoodie's system.
At a minimum, he needs to go somewhere where there are just more offensive reps. Iowa's system just runs far less offensive plays than other teams. There just isn't much room for special packages and such to take advantage of a player with AJ's abilities.
Just not a good fit.
At a minimum, he needs to go somewhere where there are just more offensive reps. Iowa's system just runs far less offensive plays than other teams. There just isn't much room for special packages and such to take advantage of a player with AJ's abilities.
Just not a good fit.
clicheusername3
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No kidding. What coach is going to switch a kid to a completely different (and challenging) position mid-season and play him right away?
Not one of the smarter posts seen in these parts.
This is a debate for another thread.
83Hawk
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No, Iowa's roster is most definitely NOT full of "gifted athletes".
You can't tell me there wasn't some way Derby couldn't be put on the field. Maybe as a wildcat...or somewhere in the backfield. Give him the ball on third and short with an option to run/pass (instead of the slow off tackle run that rarely worked). Something...ANYTHING to take advantage of the skills he has.
At the very least, having Derby in the backfield somewhere would give the opposing defense pause to think, instead of knowing exactly what Iowa is going to do.
But no.....I guess you can't do things like that at Iowa because it is "too risky".
Funny how other schools manage to get their better athletes on the field (other than special teams). But I guess "that's just football".
ssckelley
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The other defections are hard to judge since we do not know the whole story, nor do we here. But from a distance this looks like KF was trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Even though it was not the best choice for AJ it was obvious he had his heart set on being a QB. He might have been one of the all time great linebackers but if your heart is not into it then you cannot force it. They could have used that scholarship on another position, running back perhaps?
