Your Remaining Schedule Predictions
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homes
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Well, at least you acknowledge it's a big victory. That's a start.
I could easily see this. NW a maybe. Minnesota is the most GD lucky team in the country's so far....squishy soft schedule then play a Martinez less Nebraska. They are due to get their ass beat.
HawkeyeDenis
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Purdue; Win. Their offense can scpre, but their defense is cupcake.
Northwestern: Win. Always a challenge, but this year it goes to Iowa.
Wisconsin; Lose. Iowa's offense should do enough to avoid a shut out. *We hope.
Minnesota; Win. They have a decent passing attack, decent running attack. But they haven't faced a defense like Iowa. Iowa's offense can do enough to win.
Illinois: Win. Sadly this may be the swan song for Lovie. We all had high hopes for him but it just isn't happening.
Nebraska: Win. Martinez will be back. but even with him they haven't looked that good. The concern is the game is in Lincoln.
Northwestern: Win. Always a challenge, but this year it goes to Iowa.
Wisconsin; Lose. Iowa's offense should do enough to avoid a shut out. *We hope.
Minnesota; Win. They have a decent passing attack, decent running attack. But they haven't faced a defense like Iowa. Iowa's offense can do enough to win.
Illinois: Win. Sadly this may be the swan song for Lovie. We all had high hopes for him but it just isn't happening.
Nebraska: Win. Martinez will be back. but even with him they haven't looked that good. The concern is the game is in Lincoln.
hawkeyes87
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Northside Hawk
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Who do they play next? And who got hurt from that team this weekend?
The worst of it is that the Admiral probably went off on some quasi-philosophical bent after the game just because he's undefeated and he can. I'm sure they got Rutgers or Illinois next week.
Northside Hawk
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Iowa's offense was shut out the last time they went to Madison and that was coming off Ohio State. And this may be a better Wisconsin team with CFP aspirations.
It would be cool as hell to ruin those plans, the same way we ruined Barry's last Camp Randall game.
Rutgers
Let them have their fun. They've taken a lot of beatings over the years. November brings a slap of reality to the Gophers.
PSU
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Yep, this is right on. Gets Iowa to 8-4
And will have accomplished absolutely nothing. Again
Northside Hawk
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OK smart ass. Let's take a look at Hayden's 8-4's.
1981 loses to Iowa State 19-7
Gets shut out in Rose Bowl
1982. Loses to Nebraska 42-7
Wins minor bowl game
1984. Gets doors blown off by OSU
Goes 0-2-1 down stretch in November after having
Inside track to Rose Bowl
Wins inaugural bowl game and needs win at Hawaii to
qualify for that
1990. Loses to the U 48-21
Gets blown out 33-7 at half in Rose Bowl they shouldn't
have been in, scores in garbage time to make final a
respectable 46-34
1995. Down 56-0 at half to OSU and that's not a typo
Loses badly to jNW
Salvages season with convincing win in minor bowl
Sorry 8-4 didn't represent any more then than it does now.
No matter how you try to spin it.
hawkeyes87
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Really? Now you're gonna rag on the 1st winning season in 20 years?
8-4 that year included wins over #5, #6, & #7. And the 4th L was the Rose Bowl, not in-season. Ranked #15 final.
Terrible, ridiculous example.
1990 beat #5, #10, #18.
Ditto.
Those teams got to 8-4 by doing a lot more than beating the mediocre and worse teams on their schedule.
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Northside Hawk
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I'm going to nicely point out that you have 1995 and 1996 confused. The games you mentioned are from 1996. I'm going to nicely say that you're completely wrong
As for the rest, I didn't rag on anything. I'm just pointing out to Homer Simpson over there that if Kirk's 8-4's didnt accomplish anything, then neither did Hayden's. The point I'm making is that both their 8-4's, and Barry Alvarez' or anyone elses for that matter, have ups, downs, high water marks, and pitfalls. But it's not like they didn't accomplish anything.
Having a coach who can win 75-85% of college games is pretty rarified air. Hang around long enough and only a handful can do it. Listening to some of these posters it's like we had Woody Hayes or Bo Schembechler or Bobby Bowden all those years. We didn't. But we have had college hall of fame level coaches. Unfortunately we probably won't have another one for a long time. 8-4 is going to look like Barry Switzer compared to what's coming in about ten years.
hawkeyes87
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Not confused- just read it wrong. You'll notice my post has been changed. Was hoping to get it done before anybody noticed.
Anyway, what I was saying, and likely @oldhawk12 was saying, is that 8-4 with no real "quality wins" seems pretty hollow. You were average / solid / did what was "expected".
8-4 with quality wins means that yeah maybe you were inconsistent, but you at least showed you could beat the "big boys" in the right circumstances.
Northside Hawk
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And I'm arguing that if you took both coaches caches of seasons, from 6-6 to 9-3, you would likely find that both had seasons where they had good wins and seasons where they had hollow wins.
Anytime an argument comes down to apples vs apples of coaches, it's no contest. Hayden was a better coach on many levels. But when it comes down to evaluating their "mediocre seasons" and doing it over 20 year bodies of work, I think you would find that their "mediocre seasons" pretty much even out.
What @oldhawk12 has going for him, more than anything else, is recency bias. It's a powerful force and used with great success in the real world every day.
