Win or Lose...Coaching Staff deserves all of the criticism that comes their way
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Now that was funny
WinOneThisCentury
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Hey dude, NW doesn't suck. They lost to Wisky and OSU, then played Minnesota without a few key players, the biggest being Colter. If Colter plays against Minny, they win by two or three TDS. They also got a DT back today. Our offense didn't play well after the first quarter because GD refused to throw them out of the eight man look. We'd throw once in awhile with success, but then NW would just keep stacking the box. We need to come out against a team cheating their safeties and just keep throwing. It would be good for our offense to play that way also...and it gives teams a different perspective. Guess what, beat them with passes 6-7 times in a row and guess what...they will start thinking about changing things up. We havent forced that all year...and I think our QB is good enough to do it.
I hear what you are saying and agree with most of it but a win us a win. I believe that KFs defensive philosophy mixed with a middle of the road offense would average 10 wins a year. I realize that he is too stubborn to change but I'm not mad at a win because they are few and far between anymore.
tm3308
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I'll be the first to say that our gameplans coming into the games have been pretty damn good. We're 14th in the nation in first half scoring this season (not including today's games) at 20.5 ppg. Where we struggle is adjusting after the other team adjusts and starts taking away what was working early on, hence the halftime lead in every game, but then absolutely dreadful second halves. We're 100th in the nation with 8.5 ppg in the second half.
That is ******* terrible.
Stats: College Football Stats - College FB Team 2nd Half Points/Game on TeamRankings.com
HaydenHawk56
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Eda
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Those are incredible stats, and thanks for sharing them.
I think we could argue the fans on here would bash regardless. I'll provide an example. Last week vs OSU, we adjusted to the adjustments. After half, the Buckeyes started bringing safeties down to stop the run and attack the TE routes. We started throwing to the receivers on the outside and er'ybody was questioning "why we go away from what's working!?!?!?"
Seems many on here are quick to hop on something the coaching staff may lack, yet ignore what they do well. That was the purpose of my post. Tork, you're a level headed guy and I enjoy your point of view and posts; not trying to flame ya. I think we can both agree the job this coaching staff is doing this year is greatly improved from last year. Night and day.
Eda
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HaydenHawk56
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tm3308
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It's certainly better (I mean, last year was hopeless from the start every week), but it's not what I would call good yet.
Against OSU, the problem was mostly defensive (although the offense scored just 7 points in the second half, but that was mostly because OSU played keep away). And the stats show similar results for the defense.
Iowa's scoring defense by half
1st: 6.7 ppg (5th best nationally)
2nd: 13.5 ppg (63rd best nationally out of 125 FBS teams)
It's not quite as drastic as the offense, but the defense hasn't performed anywhere near as well in the second half as they have in the first, either.
bcl20
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I would be interested to know what some people think the team is doing that's conservative aside from not scoring enough points for your liking.
I mean, there's plenty of evidence that shows they do some pretty conservative things compared to other teams but I'm pretty sure a good chunk of the "argle bargle" people couldn't actually name them. They just hear other people whine that Kirk is too conservative and they kind of join in.
I mean, there's plenty of evidence that shows they do some pretty conservative things compared to other teams but I'm pretty sure a good chunk of the "argle bargle" people couldn't actually name them. They just hear other people whine that Kirk is too conservative and they kind of join in.
HawkeyeWalker
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This has some merit.
For the most part, I agree. However, what kills me is that against NW (and even ISU) Iowa continues to run at a stacked box all game. It's really not conservative that they continue to do it, but it just doesn't make sense. Why doesn't Iowa make teams pay for stacking the box? Year after year, it's that same story.
HawkeyeWalker
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This is a critique if the staff I am in complete agreement with. It has to change.
Iowa tried to make them pay for it late in the game, but Rudock threw a completion to the NW safety.
With the swirling winds (at least that's what the TV guys were saying), I'll give the coaches the benefit of the doubt on not trying to stretch the field too often.
Sidecarcoach
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I didn't see the guy come in with the idiot stick that's turned all the negative posters into such thoughtless morons.
Probably correlation to the O only scoring 8.5? There is plenty of room for improvement both sides but you still have to out score your opponent to win.
bcl20
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It's not really that we're too conservative or whatever. Iowa does plenty of non-conservative things to be honest. We're no Oregon but there have been some changes, especially in this years team with no huddle and there are times we actually will go for it on 4th and short now.
It's more awful decision making. It feels like there are a lot of times when we are conservative when we shouldn't be (punting on 4th and 3 from their 41 when we were dominating at the time comes to mine) and there are times when we do something non conservatively when we probably shouldn't (the 3rd and 1 play action vs Northern Illinois.) I'm just not sure Kirk is a good decision maker and that's not good since, it's a pretty big job of a college football coach.
It's more awful decision making. It feels like there are a lot of times when we are conservative when we shouldn't be (punting on 4th and 3 from their 41 when we were dominating at the time comes to mine) and there are times when we do something non conservatively when we probably shouldn't (the 3rd and 1 play action vs Northern Illinois.) I'm just not sure Kirk is a good decision maker and that's not good since, it's a pretty big job of a college football coach.
bcl20
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We don't often have multiple great receivers and that's part of it. Tough to shred a team through the air when teams can guard you man to man easily. Hell, it's tough to score at all when that happens.
tm3308
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That's sometimes the case (even much of the time, in Iowa's case), but last week the offense had little chance to score because OSU had the ball for what seemed like the entire third quarter. The defense had no answers for OSU in the second half and the offense was standing on the sideline watching a game of keep away.
