Why isn't there a dedicated Beth Mowins thread yet?

[HawkGold]

So...some people like her, some don't. Sounds pretty typical.

Imagine a world where people can have different opinions without being labeled "haters" (or the current version there of).

Like Hawkeye Nation?

 

[Hawk90]

Hey, Hawkeye fans are not alone: https://www.facebook.com/firebethmowins/

 

[SteveGarvey1]

Could she possibly just be bad and have an irritating voice? Or will you keep defending her solely because she is a woman. You are the problem with society.

Mike Golic Jr.'s voice on "Golic and Wingo" grates on me for some reason. Mowins is better, also, than Jason Witten or Booger on MNF.

 

[DMLadyhawk]

Must we have this thread every time Beth Mowins calls a Hawkeye game? No one is changing anyone's mind and it is tiresome.

 

[1hawkeye1]

I don't hate her. I don't want her fired. I don't think she's terrible at her job.

I do think her voice is horribly annoying. So much so that it distracts me from the game.

 

[judzeehawk]

Mike Golic Jr.'s voice on "Golic and Wingo" grates on me for some reason. Mowins is better, also, than Jason Witten or Booger on MNF.

Speaking of Booger! The trio that did this years Pinstripe Bowl were awful! Now that group was off the charts awful. I'd rather listen to Beth.

 

[NoBeer]

Must we have this thread every time Beth Mowins calls a Hawkeye game? No one is changing anyone's mind and it is tiresome.

That's really the point IMO. Some people like her, some people hate her. Some people like Glen Mason, some people hate him. But there aren't dozens of "UGH, Glen Mason" posts every time we find out he's calling our game.

 

[HawkeyeDenis]

Not Beth!

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Count me in the pro-Mowins camp.

I am not going to tell anyone who dislikes Mowins that it is due to bias because none of us can get into someone else's mind. Hell, most of us probably are not even aware of most of the biases lying within our own minds and actions. Besides, I don't think anyone who harbors a bias has ever been positively influenced by being told that they have a bias.

But we all like to learn, right? Check out the following links, or not, as you see fit. Enjoy.

What Uber can teach us about the gender pay gap? (from Freakonomics; spoiler alert, the pay gap isn't really about sexism)

A Malcolm Gladwell podcast on moral licensing (that thing that makes us feel okay to act a little more racist because we voted for Obama, or to hate Beth Mowins because we like Michelle Tafoya)

After the glass ceiling, the glass cliff (Freakonomics; exploring why there are so few women in CEO positions)

What are gender barriers made of? (Freakonomics; this one includes such nuggets as 1) if a male and female speak the exact same words, the male will be perceived as smarter, more authoritative, and a better leader (by both men and women) 2) the same effect is elicited by having the same person speak the words in both instances, but artificially increasing the pitch in one (higher pitch considered less intelligent)

Professors teaching in an online class get different evaluations depending upon if the students think they are male or female (overview of a research article published in Innovative Higher Education)

You forgot Fran McCafferys instructional video on kick ass defense.

 

[HawkGold]

Count me in the pro-Mowins camp.

I am not going to tell anyone who dislikes Mowins that it is due to bias because none of us can get into someone else's mind. Hell, most of us probably are not even aware of most of the biases lying within our own minds and actions. Besides, I don't think anyone who harbors a bias has ever been positively influenced by being told that they have a bias.

But we all like to learn, right? Check out the following links, or not, as you see fit. Enjoy.

What Uber can teach us about the gender pay gap? (from Freakonomics; spoiler alert, the pay gap isn't really about sexism)

A Malcolm Gladwell podcast on moral licensing (that thing that makes us feel okay to act a little more racist because we voted for Obama, or to hate Beth Mowins because we like Michelle Tafoya)

After the glass ceiling, the glass cliff (Freakonomics; exploring why there are so few women in CEO positions)

What are gender barriers made of? (Freakonomics; this one includes such nuggets as 1) if a male and female speak the exact same words, the male will be perceived as smarter, more authoritative, and a better leader (by both men and women) 2) the same effect is elicited by having the same person speak the words in both instances, but artificially increasing the pitch in one (higher pitch considered less intelligent)

Professors teaching in an online class get different evaluations depending upon if the students think they are male or female (overview of a research article published in Innovative Higher Education)

Online classes, in general, are higher rated. If a male starts higher, the dial will move less than someone who starts lower.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Good Lord, how YOUNG and STUPID are some of you. Some of us remember when we couldn't ACCESS an Iowa game unless we still lived IN Iowa. Now pretty much EVERY game is accessible...and people complain about the broadcast crew?

I couldn't care less about Beth Mowins, for the most part. From looking her up, though, she seems like a pretty cool young woman. Engaging, enthusiastic, fun-loving and genuinely into her job. I am actually starting to LIKE her. I don't CARE whether or not she butchers names, misses a call or salient point, etc. Hell, we have officiating crews that don't know WTF they're doing, and you clowns are worried about who the broadcast crew is?!

Y'all are the same type of morons who ask who's driving a rescue boat after a mishap at sea, or want to know who the guy is coming to fix your cable (face it, you anti-Mowins morons all have cable, or worse, Dish).

Grab an extra two beers for the game, promise your buddies you really CAN handle four beers and won't puke by halftime, and offer to chip in for the post-game pizza. Regale them with your superior intellect, football and broadcast knowledge, then come back here after you've been barred from watching with them ever again to complain about Beth Mowins.

 

[LicThawk]

Seems a bit dramatic. I think we can be annoyed with an announcer and still watch football. People can also have opinions, and in a better world, not be called names for it by keyboard tough guys. Monday night football ratings plummeted with her at the helm. Just saying. Obviously there may be more reasons than just her, but she couldn't have helped.

And for the record I drink White Claw with my pinky raised high.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Good Lord, how YOUNG and STUPID are some of you. Some of us remember when we couldn't ACCESS an Iowa game unless we still lived IN Iowa. Now pretty much EVERY game is accessible...and people complain about the broadcast crew?

I couldn't care less about Beth Mowins, for the most part. From looking her up, though, she seems like a pretty cool young woman. Engaging, enthusiastic, fun-loving and genuinely into her job. I am actually starting to LIKE her. I don't CARE whether or not she butchers names, misses a call or salient point, etc. Hell, we have officiating crews that don't know WTF they're doing, and you clowns are worried about who the broadcast crew is?!

Y'all are the same type of morons who ask who's driving a rescue boat after a mishap at sea, or want to know who the guy is coming to fix your cable (face it, you anti-Mowins morons all have cable, or worse, Dish).

Grab an extra two beers for the game, promise your buddies you really CAN handle four beers and won't puke by halftime, and offer to chip in for the post-game pizza. Regale them with your superior intellect, football and broadcast knowledge, then come back here after you've been barred from watching with them ever again to complain about Beth Mowins.

This is a very nice post! Way to put it into perspective. Yes, the young uns never remember how everything was not at the tips of their fingers. Not every Hawkeye game was on TV years ago and only the high profile games. We are spoiled so to complain about broadcasters is pretty stupid. Lol.

 

[InGoodCo]

Like I said - I hate Chris Berman calling baseball, that doesn't mean I hate men. I actually prefer woman if you know what I mean.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Like I said - I hate Chris Berman calling baseball, that doesn't mean I hate men. I actually prefer woman if you know what I mean.

....... and you surprise us all AGAIN!!

 

[hawkstats1979]

I'm good with that. I've already change the label on my mute button to "Mowins".

This. Every day, this.

 

[Robowe]

Like I said - I hate Chris Berman calling baseball, that doesn't mean I hate men. I actually prefer woman if you know what I mean.

 

[HawkGold]

This is a pretty interesting thread. I'd guess the detractors of Beth are all over the board on reasons. I'm surprised it's taken this long to have a female be a "major" voice in football. I find it interesting that it is happening while football numbers are sliding. I think that slide is bigger than some of you think. We've come a long way since Phyllis George.
I imagine some of you are against it because she is a she. There was an element in the day when Black's weren't welcome in football.

Some of you I would guess are afraid of change. Football is going to change and change mightily. It has to or it won't survive which may be the case anyway. A local paper did an article on declining numbers participating in high school. When my youngest son played just a few years ago, they had over 100 in the program on 3 teams. The numbers are down into the mid 60s. This was a football power house with 1000 kids in the high school. There are 230 kids in the marching band. I look at the boys in the band and there are some real athletic looking guys. The marching band is insanely good and put some colleges to shame. My daughter is in the band. After halftime, the stands are almost empty, except parents of football players. Visiting crowds of similar sized schools are almost non-existent. There used to be 3 powerhouses in the area. Same thing on numbers. This year in a very rapid two year slide, they've won 7 games between them. Our school had 6 of the 9 opponents cancel due to low numbers. These are high schools with between 850 and 1300 kids. The schools that are winning are further away from a Big U where the parental education level attained is lower.

Beth Mowins is likely a sign that powers that be with the pocket books are looking to try and get females interested as away to save football.

My home Iowa HS team went from being 2A to now 8 man football since I was in school. The stands used to be packed with people standing around the field all the way around. Almost no one there now and they played 11 man and were in the Dome a couple of times about 10 years ago.

No way this isn't going to impact NCAA football. Beth is a sign of the times.

One last parting thought. The Big Network has also led to the problem. You have kids from poorer families no longer watching the Big on the local free network station.

 

[Ozhawk]

THis woman is FAR superior to Beth Mowins. Far Superior.

 

[Jonrn]

This PC bias crap is BS. I think it would be great if a woman broadcast the game. Beth, however, has the most irritating, nauseating voice in broadcast TV. Plus, she is usually un-informed. If she were to speak with a feminine voice instead that of a penis-less man she would be fine. Instead, she uses a broadcast voice that should not be heard by anyone.

It’s the fake broadcaster voice, I briefly saw Byington call a game on BTN and she used a natural female voice and it was tolerable. It’s just Beth that’s the problem.