Why is soccer even shown in America?

kenokeefe4prez said:
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Good thread btw.

For starters I am a massive football fan. Go Pack, Go Hawks, screw the viqueens.

However every four years the world cup comes around I also get excited.

For starters the drama in the world cup matches is so much more intense then your general club match. Is the talent better? (Probably not) Is the play more sloppy? (I've heard yes.)
But those things don't matter because the players are going balls to the wall to win for their country and it's much more exciting.

What I don't like about soccer:
Same thing I don't like about hockey, it's too dynamic. The plays aren't really set in stone and things fly around so much it gets boring until a goal is scored.

The players are terribly advertised in the states. Who the hell are these guys and why do I care? is a common question....

What I like about soccer:
Alot of drama, and some sick athletic moves around the goals.

What I don't like about football:
All the rules protecting the offensive side of the game. The long play clocks.

What I do like about football:
For 4-6 seconds you can see some of the most explosive things on camera.

Even comparing football to soccer is stupid. Soccer players are slimmer endurance athletes, football players are huge burst athletes. They train completely different for the sports they play.

Football hits are harder, soccer plays are smoother.
 
4 days, 10 hours, 6 minutes. World Cup 2010 South Africa.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idLG6jh23yE]YouTube - NIKE FOOTBALL WRITE THE FUTURE - FULL LENGTH VERSION[/ame]

12.7 Million views since May 17th.
 
CWBhawkeyes said:
Soccer's popularity is a lame argument.
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Lame or not, 12.7 million views in under a month is a FACT not an argument.

As a soccer fan, its not my job or responsibility to justify why I enjoy playing and watching soccer. Soccer doesn't need to convert fans, it has plenty in this country and every other country in the world. You've got hundreds of channels, choose one not showing soccer, you won't be missed.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCmRkRRy8TE]YouTube - May 29, 2010: USA 2, TUR 1 - Highlights[/ame]
 
CWBhawkeyes said:
I think this sums it up quite nicely.

"Why Soccer Sucks


Soccer participants are walking advertisements.

France is successful at participating at soccer. That should say something, especially to the British.

The "World" Cup is not the a World's Cup, but a competition among 32 countries, disproportionately allotted to European countries.

Soccer hooligans.

Soccer is boring. Soccer is absurdly slow. I've had soccer apologists say with false pride how the average soccer participant "runs" 4 miles in a game. Newsflash: that means they are jogging less than 3 miles per hour. Translation: they are mostly standing around. BORING.

Soccer participants act like they've been shot. Meanwhile, real athletes like Donovan McNabb or Bobby Baun play on broken legs.

Soccer is too simple an activity.

Penalty kicks. You are determining a winner by a random event that has no relevance to the rest of the game. It would be as stupid as replacing extra innings with batting practice.

Fruity penalty cards. How stupid is it to flash up some card to indicate the severity of a penalty? Richard Simmons was inspired to use them in his diet system. Are all penalties the same? Again, the inability to use the upper torso hampers soccer participants. Use hand signals, you troglodytes.

Psychotic fans. The South Korean loser who set himself on fire is one example. The mental stability of the murderer who killed that one player because he sucked (free clue: all soccer participants suck) is another.

Ties: 55% of games are ties. Ties suck.

Why not use your hands? Or your brain?

Soccer participants do not bathe.

Soccer hairdos.

Pompous pseudo-intellectual Europeans who become soccer fans in order to convince the populace of their link to the common man.

Soccer participants with one name. I can understand why your parents would disown any soccer participant, but they should take at least any last name.

Soccer hilites concentrate on what almost happens. When ESPN has the poor sense to show soccer hilites, they show missed shots, missed passes, etc. Any real sport shows things that actually contribute to the result. Soccer participants do not care about the result.

Soccer fans justify the activity based entirely on its popularity. Not only are the reasons why soccer is popular an argument against soccer, but it really shows how pathetic said activity is when that is the only argument soccer fans come up with.

The correct term for 0 is zero, not nil. Take a math class.

Buy a freaking cup.

Soccer is not objective. There is no play clock. The game doesn't end after the clock has run down. This adds bias, subjectivism and appeals to lower intellects, and it destroys the drama from last second victories. Contrast such clumsy timekeeping (shame on the Swiss, who should know better) and the lack of any discernable strategy with the strategic precision of the two-minute drill in football.

Soccer is not objective, part two. The lack of offensive chances leads to ties, which, as we know, suck. Soccer's "solution?" Let's randomize the result (in those cases where a tie suddenly becomes an affront, the "World" Cup) by having penalty kicks.

Soccer participants on the same team have different jerseys. The obviously higher intelligence of hockey (goaltender) or football (offensive linemen) fans and referees is evident, since we don't need a different uniform to indicate a different privilege in the rule book.

Soccer is Third World inexpensive. Ordinarily, this would not be a problem. Most people don't consider buying hockey or football equipment expensive in civilized countries, but in the context of the rest of the world, it is expensive. On the other hand, soccer is dirt cheap - and by dirt cheap, I mean slum kids in Brazil rolling up balls of dirt to kick around.

Soccer apologists say the reason it is not popular in the US is because it wasn't invented in the US. First, soccer originated from the North American game called pasuckuakohowog several hundred years before the British played something resembling it. Second, basketball was the creation of a Canadian, yet is very popular in the US. Third, football was the creation of a Canadian, yet is very popular in the US.

Soccer apologists say the reason it is not popular in the US is because the US is not any good at that activity. The US soccer team won the World Cup in 1991 and 1999. Better find another reason.

Soccer apologists say soccer is an athletic activity. Using the Olympics as a barometer, it is pretty obvious that those countries that lack athletic prowess (Britain, France) are successful at soccer. Interesting to note, despite the inclusion of activities like soccer and walking in the Olympics (and the wrongful exclusion of football and rodeo), how those countries where soccer is not popular outperform those countries where soccer is popular athletically.

Soccer apologists steal terms from real sports. Hint: a pitch is something an option QB does. A draw is a running play designed to counter a strong pass rush. Football is a real sport that involves athletes in pads and helmets, not sissies playing kickball.

Soccer has no honor. There are codes of behavior in sports like hockey, baseball, football and basketball. There is no code of behavior in the activity of soccer: the penis biting should make this fairly obvious.

Soccer markets to Nazis - even today. Umbro markets Zyklon, a type of shoe, to soccer participants. Zyklon was the name of the gas used to kill Jews in WWII.

Soccer uses witch doctors. The same simplistic mentality that avails itself to soccer avails itself to primal mysticism.

Soccer idiots overexaggerate everything. Yeah, soccer deserves a Nobel Prize. Better load up on the security for that award presentation, because soccer deserves it less than terrorists like Arafat. Yeah, a soccer game is a wondrous event in your nation's history. Granted, these nations still have to master indoor plumbing, but please - stop the hallucinogenics, now.

Soccer fans actually set themselves on fire. That's a pretty good barometer judging the mentality of soccer fans.

Soccer cheering has no point. Football fans successfully cause opposing teams' offenses to call timeouts, use up the play clock, screw up audibles or cause procedure penalties. Ask Burt Hooton whether baseball fans affect an opponent's performance. Soccer? They sing songs - which all sound the same - regardless of outcome. It doesn't celebrate performance. It doesn't serve to intimidate. It has no purpose.

Soccer counts time up. Soccer games count the time that has elapsed, rather than the time remaining. This is stupid for a number of reasons. First, soccer games don't refer to time anyway, so why even keep it? Second, why the concern on the past? The score already reflects all important information of what has already happened in the game. In soccer, this is most likely irrelevant anyway, since the score is most likely 0-0, er, nil, nil. The focus should be on the result - which depends on the future. Thus, time should count down. Can you imagine NASA counting up (from, say, when JFK made his speech about landing on the moon in a decade)? How stupid would that be?"
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What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
 
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thejumper5 said:
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What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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I would like to make a formal nomination for post of the year.
 
CWBhawkeyes said:
I think this sums it up quite nicely.

"Why Soccer Sucks


Soccer participants are walking advertisements.

France is successful at participating at soccer. That should say something, especially to the British.

The "World" Cup is not the a World's Cup, but a competition among 32 countries, disproportionately allotted to European countries.

Soccer hooligans.

Soccer is boring. Soccer is absurdly slow. I've had soccer apologists say with false pride how the average soccer participant "runs" 4 miles in a game. Newsflash: that means they are jogging less than 3 miles per hour. Translation: they are mostly standing around. BORING.

Soccer participants act like they've been shot. Meanwhile, real athletes like Donovan McNabb or Bobby Baun play on broken legs.

Soccer is too simple an activity.

Penalty kicks. You are determining a winner by a random event that has no relevance to the rest of the game. It would be as stupid as replacing extra innings with batting practice.

Fruity penalty cards. How stupid is it to flash up some card to indicate the severity of a penalty? Richard Simmons was inspired to use them in his diet system. Are all penalties the same? Again, the inability to use the upper torso hampers soccer participants. Use hand signals, you troglodytes.

Psychotic fans. The South Korean loser who set himself on fire is one example. The mental stability of the murderer who killed that one player because he sucked (free clue: all soccer participants suck) is another.

Ties: 55% of games are ties. Ties suck.

Why not use your hands? Or your brain?

Soccer participants do not bathe.

Soccer hairdos.

Pompous pseudo-intellectual Europeans who become soccer fans in order to convince the populace of their link to the common man.

Soccer participants with one name. I can understand why your parents would disown any soccer participant, but they should take at least any last name.

Soccer hilites concentrate on what almost happens. When ESPN has the poor sense to show soccer hilites, they show missed shots, missed passes, etc. Any real sport shows things that actually contribute to the result. Soccer participants do not care about the result.

Soccer fans justify the activity based entirely on its popularity. Not only are the reasons why soccer is popular an argument against soccer, but it really shows how pathetic said activity is when that is the only argument soccer fans come up with.

The correct term for 0 is zero, not nil. Take a math class.

Buy a freaking cup.

Soccer is not objective. There is no play clock. The game doesn't end after the clock has run down. This adds bias, subjectivism and appeals to lower intellects, and it destroys the drama from last second victories. Contrast such clumsy timekeeping (shame on the Swiss, who should know better) and the lack of any discernable strategy with the strategic precision of the two-minute drill in football.

Soccer is not objective, part two. The lack of offensive chances leads to ties, which, as we know, suck. Soccer's "solution?" Let's randomize the result (in those cases where a tie suddenly becomes an affront, the "World" Cup) by having penalty kicks.

Soccer participants on the same team have different jerseys. The obviously higher intelligence of hockey (goaltender) or football (offensive linemen) fans and referees is evident, since we don't need a different uniform to indicate a different privilege in the rule book.

Soccer is Third World inexpensive. Ordinarily, this would not be a problem. Most people don't consider buying hockey or football equipment expensive in civilized countries, but in the context of the rest of the world, it is expensive. On the other hand, soccer is dirt cheap - and by dirt cheap, I mean slum kids in Brazil rolling up balls of dirt to kick around.

Soccer apologists say the reason it is not popular in the US is because it wasn't invented in the US. First, soccer originated from the North American game called pasuckuakohowog several hundred years before the British played something resembling it. Second, basketball was the creation of a Canadian, yet is very popular in the US. Third, football was the creation of a Canadian, yet is very popular in the US.

Soccer apologists say the reason it is not popular in the US is because the US is not any good at that activity. The US soccer team won the World Cup in 1991 and 1999. Better find another reason.

Soccer apologists say soccer is an athletic activity. Using the Olympics as a barometer, it is pretty obvious that those countries that lack athletic prowess (Britain, France) are successful at soccer. Interesting to note, despite the inclusion of activities like soccer and walking in the Olympics (and the wrongful exclusion of football and rodeo), how those countries where soccer is not popular outperform those countries where soccer is popular athletically.

Soccer apologists steal terms from real sports. Hint: a pitch is something an option QB does. A draw is a running play designed to counter a strong pass rush. Football is a real sport that involves athletes in pads and helmets, not sissies playing kickball.

Soccer has no honor. There are codes of behavior in sports like hockey, baseball, football and basketball. There is no code of behavior in the activity of soccer: the penis biting should make this fairly obvious.

Soccer markets to Nazis - even today. Umbro markets Zyklon, a type of shoe, to soccer participants. Zyklon was the name of the gas used to kill Jews in WWII.

Soccer uses witch doctors. The same simplistic mentality that avails itself to soccer avails itself to primal mysticism.

Soccer idiots overexaggerate everything. Yeah, soccer deserves a Nobel Prize. Better load up on the security for that award presentation, because soccer deserves it less than terrorists like Arafat. Yeah, a soccer game is a wondrous event in your nation's history. Granted, these nations still have to master indoor plumbing, but please - stop the hallucinogenics, now.

Soccer fans actually set themselves on fire. That's a pretty good barometer judging the mentality of soccer fans.

Soccer cheering has no point. Football fans successfully cause opposing teams' offenses to call timeouts, use up the play clock, screw up audibles or cause procedure penalties. Ask Burt Hooton whether baseball fans affect an opponent's performance. Soccer? They sing songs - which all sound the same - regardless of outcome. It doesn't celebrate performance. It doesn't serve to intimidate. It has no purpose.

Soccer counts time up. Soccer games count the time that has elapsed, rather than the time remaining. This is stupid for a number of reasons. First, soccer games don't refer to time anyway, so why even keep it? Second, why the concern on the past? The score already reflects all important information of what has already happened in the game. In soccer, this is most likely irrelevant anyway, since the score is most likely 0-0, er, nil, nil. The focus should be on the result - which depends on the future. Thus, time should count down. Can you imagine NASA counting up (from, say, when JFK made his speech about landing on the moon in a decade)? How stupid would that be?"
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I refuse to read posts that are this long. I don't know whether the poster is for or against soccer, and I don't care...but the idea someone wasted this much time on a soccer post...makes me puke.

If a post is this long...it had better be about Iowa Football.
 
ive never been a soccer fan, but the last World Cup i got to watching and actually got into it- Dont know if that will be the case for me this time around, but if nothing else on tv worth watching i will prolly atleast check it out for a few minutes
 
I just started to get into soccer recently, and it truly is a great sport to watch, MLS is pretty bad to watch and alot of players do stand around or make errant passes, but when you watch some of the better teams from the English Premier League or Barcalona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munchen they are great games to watch because the passing is flawless and it really is a "beautiful" sport to watch.
 
The reason soccer is the most poular sport in the world has nothing to do with it's excitement. It's the most popular sport in the world because most of the world is insanely poor and it's the cheapest sport in the world. All you need is a ball and you are good.

Soccer much like baseball is not a game that is easy to come to late in life and enjoy. If you play a lot as a child you get it, if you dont catch the bug early you probably wont. The reality is for most kids in America money is not an obstacle in playing most sports therefore football, baseball, and basketball will continue to be the major sports for some time. That being said there is enough immigration from Latin America and Europe, as well as the 2nd tier athelticly gifted kids who will play so I'd imagine it will continue to grow.

The reality is for most of us this is what soccer looks like....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noOHdTQd6H8]YouTube - The Simpson's-broadcasting soccer[/ame]
 
Drakebulldog93 said:
I refuse to read posts that are this long. I don't know whether the poster is for or against soccer, and I don't care...but the idea someone wasted this much time on a soccer post...makes me puke.

If a post is this long...it had better be about Iowa Football.
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I actually copied and pasted it off a different website, which is why it's in quotes.
 
DuffMan said:
The reason soccer is the most poular sport in the world has nothing to do with it's excitement. It's the most popular sport in the world because most of the world is insanely poor and it's the cheapest sport in the world. All you need is a ball and you are good.
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I don't get this. While there are many good soccer players from South and Central America, and even a few from Sub-Saharan Africa, the game is still dominated in most part by Western Europeans, which is a pretty damned wealthy part of the world. The game is also popular in other wealthy, industiralized nations like Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

Also, you don't just need a ball to play soccer. If you are going to play sandlot, yeah, you need a ball. However, if you are playing sandlot football, you also only need a ball. If you are playing pickup basketball, all you need is a ball.

However, if you want to play on a real competitive level, you need extra equipment.

The reason other countries excel at soccer is because the kids grow up watching it and they aspire to be it. In the US, our best athletes do not grow up dreaming of being soccer players. If we had our best athletes in the World cup, and they spent their lives dreaming of being soccer stars, we would dominate.

Imagine if guys like Lebron James, Joe Mauer, or Ladanian Tomlinson dedicated their lives and talents to soccer.
 
Unlike CWB, who has to copy and paste his soccer hate because he can't think of anything fresh or original, I wrote my own pro-soccer essay in 2008. Enjoy an excerpt...

Club Pen15: Do it with your foot this time

However, fat guys have no place in soccer. They are probably the finest athletes on the planet. Now, American sports fans are hesitant to accept this. We tend to think we have the best athletes in the world, despite the fact that we routinely get our ***** handed to by foreigners in sports we invented. Plus, soccer just seems so European or South American for Americans to enjoy. I find this a travesty.

Europe and South America have several things to offer us besides great sports, and you probably don't even know about it. Both continents have fully embraced the concept of beach nudity, for example. If you hate soccer just because it is foreign, I say you have to stop jerking off to Shakira videos.

So I say to you, average American, give soccer a chance. Watch a soccer match side-by-side with a NASCAR race, and tell me which sport has the most excitement. If you can tolerate 3 hours of left turns with an occasional wreck, you can tolerate 3 hours of slide tackles with an occasional goal where a guy does the robot dance afterwards.
 
GhostofBTT said:
Imagine if guys like Lebron James, Joe Mauer, or Ladanian Tomlinson dedicated their lives and talents to soccer.
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Basketball, baseball, and football would still be more popular, and the vast majority of Americans wouldn't know who those guys are.
 
hawkeye2188 said:
I just started to get into soccer recently, and it truly is a great sport to watch, MLS is pretty bad to watch and alot of players do stand around or make errant passes, but when you watch some of the better teams from the English Premier League or Barcalona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munchen they are great games to watch because the passing is flawless and it really is a "beautiful" sport to watch.
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I'm a bigger soccer enthusiast and I have a hard time watching MLS. Most of us do. The world game is much better and easier to view for two hours.
 
tweeterhawk said:
I'm a bigger soccer enthusiast and I have a hard time watching MLS. Most of us do. The world game is much better and easier to view for two hours.
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I wouldnt call myself an enthusiast, but getting close. I watched the last 10 minutes of the chicago-dallas game last week and it was a close game in score but dallas didnt seem like they stood much of a chance because their attack was weak the whole time i watched, i compared that to the UEFA championship and i was in awe watching that game, i watched the whole game and was impressed.
 
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