West Virginia blowing the doors off of the Clowns!

[bcl20]

West Virginia has been fairly good since the Big 12 season started and playing well in that conference is impressive but never expected them to beat Iowa State by 25. That said, **** happens in this sport and I mark that game down as one of the random events of college basketball more than any sort of sign that the Clones aren't good or that West Virginia is that great. I just hope a game like that doesn't happen to us.

 

[ssckelley]

West Virginia has been fairly good since the Big 12 season started and playing well in that conference is impressive but never expected them to beat Iowa State by 25. That said, **** happens in this sport and I mark that game down as one of the random events of college basketball more than any sort of sign that the Clones aren't good or that West Virginia is that great. I just hope a game like that doesn't happen to us.

Yes, take care of business on Saturday! Could you imagine the melt down that would happen here if Iowa went into Penn State and laid an egg like the clowns did last night?

 

[bcl20]

Yes, take care of business on Saturday! Could you imagine the melt down that would happen here if Iowa went into Penn State and laid an egg like the clowns did last night?

You would think it wouldn't since we went so long without making a shot vs a top 10 team and still weren't blown out but you just never know.

 

[DP5555]

If I was a clown fan I would have a melt down as well. That was a pathetic performance last night that looked horrible on the national level especially after Ejim layed an egg after making headlines with his performance on Saturday. Tough day to be a clown fan right now.

I read an article from Bleacher Report discussing the biggest winners and losers on the most recent AP poll.

Winners and Losers from the AP College Basketball Top 25 Rankings in Week 15 | Bleacher Report

I never understood why Ejim's 48 point performance would have anything to do with why they jumped up in the polls so much. It's not like they dominated a pitiful TCU team. They just didn't have an answer for Ejim. He was getting lay-ups, dunks, and alley-oops at will. He wasn't shooting lights out. He hit two threes. The majority of those 48 points came from within a few feet of the basket. Still an great performance, but shouldn't the TEAM rankings have more to do with how the team performed instead of how one player performed? He had an incredible game, but they still let an awful TCU team hang within 10 pts. for majority of the game. It was a great individual performance, but far from a great team performance.

The West Virginia game was the perfect trap game. Everyone was telling them how good they are. Ejim was all over Sportscenter. Then BAM. Welcome back to the real world.

 

[bcl20]

I thought a similar thing about their TCU game. I mean, 48 points is impressive but beating TCU isn't really much different then beating one of our awful non conference opponents.

 

[okeefe4prez]

I was in Iowa City tonight for my best friend's going away party and just got back to DSM and saw the score for the first time. All I can really muster is, "What the **** happened?"

What happened is you guys got whooped. And when you are out there recruiting a bunch of marginal character guys, they get mad when they lose and start cheapshotting guys.

 

[BryceC]

A top 10 Michigan lost not all that long ago at an unrated Indiana team and only scored 52 points doing so. They looked horrible. The issue with this game was that ISU stopped playing. They gave up. The final score reflects that and they were giving up points at the rim and from 3.

I’m sorry but I disagree with DP5555’s post. CyFan’s natural progression is to go overly optimistic. HN’s reaction is to go overly pessimistic and there are some absolutely stupid stuff posted over here when Iowa loses. (Lose at home to OSU? This team is going to the NIT!). There may be more perspective over here in regard to ISU sports but not any more in regard to your own teams.

 

[hawkfarmer]

Hey, don't forget the epic ISU comeback against WVU in football. This one has that same vibe. Clones are about to kick it into gear! Only down 32. Rhoades is getting his speech ready now!

This is really funny because I think you are joking, but saw several of these comments on my facebook that actually believed it would happen again. It was comical.

 

[ssckelley]

A top 10 Michigan lost not all that long ago at an unrated Indiana team and only scored 52 points doing so. They looked horrible. The issue with this game was that ISU stopped playing. They gave up. The final score reflects that and they were giving up points at the rim and from 3.

Bryce, that is a horrible comparison. Michigan was in that game in front of a sold out Assembly Hall crowd (over 17K) in a nationally televised game and I do not remember them giving up, they kept playing hard even when the Hawks were giving them a butt kicking in Carver. ISU laid an egg in WVU Coliseum that was barely over 1/2 full. If ISU stopped playing then the clowns have more issues than just the loss.

 

[imported_ankle23]

Bryce, that is a horrible comparison. Michigan was in that game in front of a sold out Assembly Hall crowd (over 17K) in a nationally televised game and I do not remember them giving up, they kept playing hard even when the Hawks were giving them a butt kicking in Carver. ISU laid an egg in WVU Coliseum that was barely over 1/2 full. If ISU stopped playing then the clowns have more issues than just the loss.

but that is always clown's fall back position - making a comparison to the 'horrible' big ten. i think that must make 'em feel better about their status. i've read numerous times at how life would be different for them if they were in the big ten and not the power 12. you know rose bowls and conference champions and all that...

 

[DP5555]

A top 10 Michigan lost not all that long ago at an unrated Indiana team and only scored 52 points doing so. They looked horrible. The issue with this game was that ISU stopped playing. They gave up. The final score reflects that and they were giving up points at the rim and from 3.

I’m sorry but I disagree with DP5555’s post. CyFan’s natural progression is to go overly optimistic. HN’s reaction is to go overly pessimistic and there are some absolutely stupid stuff posted over here when Iowa loses. (Lose at home to OSU? This team is going to the NIT!). There may be more perspective over here in regard to ISU sports but not any more in regard to your own teams.

I agree with your point regarding HN's tendency to go overboard with negativity after a loss. However, you are completely missing my point if that's all you took out of my post.

This was the point of my post... Like you said yourself, on CyFan they tend to be overly optimistic in terms of the Cyclones basketball team, and also in terms of what Paul Rhoads has accomplished with the football team. There is a vast majority of posters who have an overinflated view of their own team. The Cyclones beat the Hawks by 3 pts. at Hilton, and fans over there act like there is a huge discrepancy between how good the Cyclones are and how bad the Hawkeyes are. Like the Cyclones are title contenders and the Hawks are vying for the NIT. Most unbiased analysts who watched the Iowa vs Iowa State game would flat out say the Hawks lost that game more so than the Cyclones won it. It's totally insane. Posters over here don't feel the need to be overly derogatory about the Cyclones. The majority of us will readily admit Hoiberg has a good team, and that he's a great coach. I think the majority of us would admit they are much better than we thought they would be. The majority of us will admit that the Big 12 is a damn good conference.

That kind of reality just does not happen on CyFan. It's all about how good the Cyclones are, how good the Big 12 is, how bad the Hawkeyes are, and how bad the Big 10 is. The thing that is blatantly obvious with most posters on CyFan is that they are completely and utterly incapable of admitting the Hawks are a good team, Fran is a good coach, and the Big 10 is a damn good conference. That's what Dean is talking about when he says there is a major inferiority complex. It just makes that board look like it's filled with totally incompetent individuals.

No I don't expect a rival fan base to lay praise on the Hawks. However, it isn't a sign of weakness to be able to admit a rival team is actually pretty good.

 

[lightning1]

DP makes a good point because ISU is much better than I thought they would be and I dont have a problem saying that. Nor did I have a problem giving Ejim his due after a 48 point game.
The fact that Clown fans have such an inferiority complex is evident in this very thread. Where are all of the Clown fans that usually troll this board? I see Bryce isnt scared to make an appearance and call a turd a turd. Where's the rest?

 

[DP5555]

I guess I've just always had a tremendous amount of respect for people who can have obvious differences, but still have the ability to see those differences with clarity. There's very little clarity on CyFan. There's an abundance of stubbornness. The ability to take yourself outside the box, and view things from a more holistic perspective breeds respect. When all you do is toot your own horn, and show a consistent inability to give credit where it is due you lose respect rapidly. The Cyclone fan base has little man syndrome. When they actually have a good team things get out of control and perspective is completely lost.

"Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity."

 

[deanvogs]

I guess I've just always had a tremendous amount of respect for people who can have obvious differences, but still have the ability to see those differences with clarity. There's very little clarity on CyFan. There's an abundance of stubbornness. The ability to take yourself outside the box, and view things from a more holistic perspective breeds respect. When all you do is toot your own horn, and show a consistent inability to give credit where it is do you lose respect rapidly. The Cyclone fan base has little man syndrome. When they actually have a good team things get out of control and perspective is completely lost.

"Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity."

This is why they are "Lil Brother" or have "Lil Man Syndrome", however you want to say it. The funny thing is they try to call Iowa Lil brother, because they have had a better program the last 2-3 years. What they don't get is what people are talking about is the overall attitude of the fan base, basically all the things we are talking about.

 

[BryceC]

You guys are letting posters on CF, who are obsessed with Iowa change how you look at a whole fanbase. Some people feel that way and are frequently the ones that post in Iowa threads over there. If my only experience with Iowa fans was JWR or HFN if feel the same way,

There are more people there so there is more of it. However if you came to my office which seems like a 50/50 split everybody likes talking clones and hawks and aren't threatened by the other's success at all.

I would say Iowa State and iowa are very similar this year, the numbers flesh that out, and the difference in the win was likely Hilton.

Hilton is a good example of how it happens both ways though. There was a surprisingly large contingent of people over here that would give zero credit to Iowa State's home court advantage. None. There are some in this thread, Iowa State couldn't have possibly had great players making great plays and a home court that effected the game, it has to be iowa blowing it.

 

[okeefe4prez]

There are some in this thread, Iowa State couldn't have possibly had great players making great plays and a home court that effected the game, it has to be iowa blowing it.

I know you are an Iowa State fan, therefore you have a low IQ, so I will type this in larger font in the hopes of making it easier to read:

THE REFS COST US THE GAME. #MORON

 

[deanvogs]

You guys are letting posters on CF, who are obsessed with Iowa change how you look at a whole fanbase. Some people feel that way and are frequently the ones that post in Iowa threads over there. If my only experience with Iowa fans was JWR or HFN if feel the same way,There are more people there so there is more of it. However if you came to my office which seems like a 50/50 split everybody likes talking clones and hawks and aren't threatened by the other's success at all.I would say Iowa State and iowa are very similar this year, the numbers flesh that out, and the difference in the win was likely Hilton.Hilton is a good example of how it happens both ways though. There was a surprisingly large contingent of people over here that would give zero credit to Iowa State's home court advantage. None. There are some in this thread, Iowa State couldn't have possibly had great players making great plays and a home court that effected the game, it has to be iowa blowing it.

I'm not gonna let a few ISU DB's on CF affect how I think about the fan base as a whole. The Hawkeye fan base has a bit of an arrogant attitude that exudes from them when it comes to ISU. ISU fans have the inferiority complex that seems to exude from them when it come to the Hawks. That is a generalization for sure, but it is fairly accurate if you ask me.

 

[DP5555]

You guys are letting posters on CF, who are obsessed with Iowa change how you look at a whole fanbase. Some people feel that way and are frequently the ones that post in Iowa threads over there. If my only experience with Iowa fans was JWR or HFN if feel the same way,

There are more people there so there is more of it. However if you came to my office which seems like a 50/50 split everybody likes talking clones and hawks and aren't threatened by the other's success at all.

I would say Iowa State and iowa are very similar this year, the numbers flesh that out, and the difference in the win was likely Hilton.

Hilton is a good example of how it happens both ways though. There was a surprisingly large contingent of people over here that would give zero credit to Iowa State's home court advantage. None. There are some in this thread, Iowa State couldn't have possibly had great players making great plays and a home court that effected the game, it has to be iowa blowing it.

You are the exception, not the norm Bryce. I get that it's hard for you to see from your perspective. I'm not just talking about CyFan. I work for an organization in the Des Moines area with 1200 employees. We are split about 50/50 as well. I grew up in a family of 6, and I'm the only one in my family who has cheered for Iowa since I was a kid and ended up going to Iowa for school. My Dad graduated from ISU so he brainwashed my brothers and sisters in to going there as well... Couldn't crack this nut tho .

Anyways, I see it in my family, I see it at work, and I certainly see it on CyFan.
I'm not making my analysis off of just the message boards. There is an inferiority complex whether you admit it or not.

 

[CWooD4]

Awful game, horrible defense, they gave up. All about what you can say. Hopefully it wakes their ***** up the rest of the season.

I had this game pegged as a loss, but not a whoopin' like that. Thankfully regardless of the outcome it still counts as one L. We'll see how they come out Saturday.

 

[BryceC]

I'm not gonna let a few ISU DB's on CF affect how I think about the fan base as a whole. The Hawkeye fan base has a bit of an arrogant attitude that exudes from them when it comes to ISU. ISU fans have the inferiority complex that seems to exude from them when it come to the Hawks. That is a generalization for sure, but it is fairly accurate if you ask me.

That's fair, and DP555 said basically the same thing.

That said, overall the inferiority complex seems massively reduced since I started there in 2000.