thedukeofearl
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Good Old Fashioned AssKicking tonite
Utah State
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HawkIowa44
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Payton is not an NBA player
eyekwah
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If you were dubious about this Iowa team you were right. Tonight was brutal to watch. Lack of rebounding, absolute nothing from 3 point range, too many turnovers, and lineups that didn't work well.
You got to put the blame on Fran for not having a plan B. There is no leadership at the point guard position. Helter/Skelter was the only description for it.
If things don't improve and attendance is down further Goetz will have to make some changes.
You got to put the blame on Fran for not having a plan B. There is no leadership at the point guard position. Helter/Skelter was the only description for it.
If things don't improve and attendance is down further Goetz will have to make some changes.
STILLBUSTER
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Not one I thot we'd lose. Had ISU and Utah as losses. Looks like 9-3 pre.
Still have them in the NIT, tho.
Still have them in the NIT, tho.
ForeverHawk
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Hmmm…….well………..
Agree with Little River Band- it's time for a cool change
Fryowa
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It’s recruiting. That’s the failure with the past few teams. Which admittedly is on coaches, but also admittedly things are different in the NIL era. Iowa is further behind the curve in NIL than it is in football.
Think of this…
For the past decade and a half we’ve always seemed to have at least one and sometimes two dominating players, and a supporting cast of guys who were pretty dangerous.
Just from the Uthoff era on you had White, Uthoff, Gesell, Woodbury, Jok, Wieskamp, Bohannon, Cook, Garza, Murray, Murray. After that it stopped and stopped big time. It’s no coincidence that we went from what we had to the Bad News Bears as soon as NIL became a thing. None of the players I listed above other than possibly Gesell, Woody, and Wieskamp would have even visited Iowa, and Weezy would’ve gotten stolen away by NIL after his first good season. The days of this program having Garza or Murray are doneski. Better accept it. Fran is damn good at finding underrated players and turning them into that, but have you guys even listened to his pressers?
The guy is deflated. I have no doubt he loves his players, but let’s be honest…Fran wants to move to Indy. Closer to his boys, his wife hates it here, and they both have ND connections. Then you take the one coaching advantage he’s always had (being able to find guys under the radar and get them to Iowa) and yank it out from under his feet in the form of NIL..I don’t blame him. He owes this program nothing.
But…this program is cooked and this is the kind of ragtag roster you’re going to keep seeing. You can’t take guys like what we have now and turn them into the players I listed before. And even if you did…say good bye the following year because we don’t have the money to keep them.
Think of this…
For the past decade and a half we’ve always seemed to have at least one and sometimes two dominating players, and a supporting cast of guys who were pretty dangerous.
Just from the Uthoff era on you had White, Uthoff, Gesell, Woodbury, Jok, Wieskamp, Bohannon, Cook, Garza, Murray, Murray. After that it stopped and stopped big time. It’s no coincidence that we went from what we had to the Bad News Bears as soon as NIL became a thing. None of the players I listed above other than possibly Gesell, Woody, and Wieskamp would have even visited Iowa, and Weezy would’ve gotten stolen away by NIL after his first good season. The days of this program having Garza or Murray are doneski. Better accept it. Fran is damn good at finding underrated players and turning them into that, but have you guys even listened to his pressers?
The guy is deflated. I have no doubt he loves his players, but let’s be honest…Fran wants to move to Indy. Closer to his boys, his wife hates it here, and they both have ND connections. Then you take the one coaching advantage he’s always had (being able to find guys under the radar and get them to Iowa) and yank it out from under his feet in the form of NIL..I don’t blame him. He owes this program nothing.
But…this program is cooked and this is the kind of ragtag roster you’re going to keep seeing. You can’t take guys like what we have now and turn them into the players I listed before. And even if you did…say good bye the following year because we don’t have the money to keep them.
thedukeofearl
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thedukeofearl
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Gander Hawk
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I'd like to collect on that guarantee.
InGoodCo
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I actually thought our PG was one of the only highlights from that game. Brock Harding had his best game as a Hawkeye. What a lot of people don't realize is this is Brock's first real playing time right? He hardly played last season and this is what, his 6th game of his career where he's played significant minutes? He's actually a bright spot from that game IMO, everyone around him let him down.
We couldn't afford to take him off the floor in the 2nd half, that is encouraging to me.
Rebounding is going to be a thing with this team, it just is, they are limited in the post, so I don't expect that to change much.
Iowa didn't hit shoots, it lost. But this loss didn't look like previous year losses imo (lack of PG and poor defense). That was 2 teams that were scoring 90+ a game.
