Uh Oh, Wirfs got in some trouble

Life is about discretion, proportionality, and choosing the lesser of multiple evils to make your life as easy as it can be under your given circumstances.

If you want to have a hippy demonstration and go to jail screaming, “Hell no, we won’t go” over what amounts to a curfew ticket be my guest. And if you think by doing so you’re falling on some sort of metaphorical sword and making a tangible change in the world one civil disobedience at a time, well...you’re less intelligent than I thought. You’ve let your Shangri-la view of how the “justice” system is supposed to work get intertwined with reality which is the absolute worst kind of naïveté. But go get ‘em, tiger...stick it to the man!!!

PS, people who say, “If I have to go in handcuffs to prove a point, I will...” are naive dullards at best, and hypocritical at worst. Because when the rubber meets the road you’re all talk. The Constitution has plenty of great arguments against it regarding taxes, but guess what? Ol’ ModebaSan pays ‘em each and every pay period, not because he’s a good dude who feels like they’re a necessary part of a high-functioning society, but because he knows if he doesn’t, Johnny Law is gonna come take his house and throw him in the slammer. So save the martyrdom spiel for someone who can’t see past it. You’re stealing the thunder of people who’ve really done stuff to make the world better.
Lol! What a bunch of bullshit! I pay my taxes and happy to do my part. I do not claim to be a “sovereign citizen” which you are implying. Go ahead and be a sheep and let them keep fucking you in the ass. I just bet you like it that way. You have your opinion and I have mine, so just leave it at that. It is your “Right” to have your opinion, and I support you although I don’t agree with your just bend over and take it mentality, I am a free citizen and intend to stay that way.
 
Delusional stupidity confirmed. Say hi to Wesley Snipes for me.
So you are claiming that you are not a free citizen and willing to protect your rights? Then you deserve what you get. You are always, and I mean ALWAYS the only person in these forums that disagrees with everyone, no matter the topic. I guess you just know better than the rest of us. My only conclusion on why you don’t respect others is that you weren’t breast fed by your mama and most likely was dick fed by your daddy. And probably enjoyed it at that.
 
So you are claiming that you are not a free citizen and willing to protect your rights?.
None of us are free, Skeezix.
You are always, and I mean ALWAYS the only person in these forums that disagrees with everyone, no matter the topic.
False. I agree with lots of people here.
you weren’t breast fed by your mama and most likely was dick fed by your daddy. And probably enjoyed it at that.
Mission accomplished.
 
Iowa City might as well be Gillead (Handmaid's Tale reference) . what a bunch of do nothing Hee Haw cops. Really arresting an underage kid because he was IN a bar after 10pm. You know how many children are in bars ACROSS the state from the time that they are babies with their parents? This has gotten beyond ridick
 
When I was a student at Iowa in the 90's, people under 21 could go to the bars until closing. But, if under 21 ..no alcohol. No matter what bar, the cops were always coming in and making the rounds busting under age drinkers. They never got me, I was always one step ahead of them;)
 
Dude,
You know how many children are in bars ACROSS the state from the time that they are babies with their parents?

I was basically raised in a bar. I heard they don't even allow smoking in the bars in Iowa anymore. Sad that the kids these days will never get to experience what I did.
 
10:1 says this guy was a beta orbiter who was just used for his car. I mean, yeah, a '72 Olds was a panty dropper of a rig, but the story reads more like Penthouse Forums than a factual recount.

Well, he DOES have "large, Midwestern university" going for him.
 
I nearly got rear-ended on my way home from work a couple weeks ago by some bozo in a beater flying down I-235 going 70+ paying no attention to the road. I had to lay on my horn before he swerved left between me and the median. People that cause accidents while on their phone should have their licenses suspended on their first offense, and revoked on a second or third. I honestly think it should be treated with the same severity as on OWI at this point.
Yep. Absolutely.
 
Stop lording your AA degree over everyone.
We both know you tried community college a couple times before pre-algebra finally got the best of you. Don’t worry, lots of people went to that large midwestern university.
 
First of all, Wirfs could of avoided the whole thing by refusing to identify himself. You have to have reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime has been committed, is being committed, or about to be committed. How could they possibly know TW was 20 yrs. old unless 1.) They have encountered him before, or 2.) They have a list of Iowa players that are underage. Either way it sounds like profiling to me.
If TW refused to ID, they would have to let him go. You only have to ID yourself if and only if you have been arrested for a crime. It is only a secondary charge, not a reason to arrest.
I see the Iowa City ordinance as a violation of your First and Fourteenth Amendments. It violates a persons right to liberty. Liberty is the right to do what you want, go where you want, and say what you want. Underage drinking is a crime. But simply being underage, is not a crime. I’d like to see someone challenge the Constitutional validity of this stupid ordinance.

I think it's admirable that you think "probable cause" is still a viable legal maxim here in the mother country.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because maybe you're living elsewhere and haven't lived here in the USA for awhile.

If not that's some pretty naive shiza.
 
I think it's admirable that you think "probable cause" is still a viable legal maxim here in the mother country.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because maybe you're living elsewhere and haven't lived here in the USA for awhile.

If not that's some pretty naive shiza.
It’s the law. Look it up.
 
We should combine the Wirfs and Hamburger threads. Just how many hamburgers could Wirfs eat?

I'd venture to guess a baker's dozen.
 
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The laws biggest problem is it's open to interpretation. Unfortunately that opening is rarely filled with common sense.
If I was a DA, things would be different in my county. I certainly wouldn't want a bunch of minor charges coming before me.
Because the question (common sense) was raised of what about a buffalo wild wings?
I think this "law" should be treated as a guideline. I don't agree with it, but if the public wants to limit underage people in places that serve alcohol (never mind that they're old enough to go off to war) that's their choice.
However as a judge or a DA, I would simply say, "You could of just told him you were going to be back in an hour and he might want to be gone".
 

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