Tracking 2015 Class Offers

A few questions for the experts:

How many schollies left? (with Willies or without on team)
What are target positions? LB, DE, DB?
Who are the propects still available at those positions and what are Iowa's chances?
How many guys that we have never heard of get signed in Feb? O/U 2
 
hawkfarmer said:
A few questions for the experts:

How many schollies left? (with Willies or without on team)
What are target positions? LB, DE, DB?
Who are the propects still available at those positions and what are Iowa's chances?
How many guys that we have never heard of get signed in Feb? O/U 2
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I'm on top of this subject because Minnesota's class is even worse off than the Hawkeyes (#57 overall vs Iowa #51). Minnesota competing for a couple great prospects (Raequan Williams DT, Anree Saint Amour DE and Crawford DB). The Hawkeyes appear to be better positioned with those 2. It appears the top prospects remaining are:

Raequan Williams - DT/DE
Tevis Bartlett - LB
Anree Saint Amour - DE
Chris Hart - DE
Jonathan Crawford - DB

What I find interesting is that the Hawkeye coaches appear to be ready to offer over the 85 limit? Presently, there are 83 schollies when counting the 17 athletes in the 2015 class. Figure Willies and Markell Smith get schollies, that places the Hawkeyes at the 85 limit. That said, what will the Hawkeye coaches do at signing day if there is no attrition on the present roster or the 2015 class.
 
LurkinGopher said:
I'm on top of this subject because Minnesota's class is even worse off than the Hawkeyes (#57 overall vs Iowa #51). Minnesota competing for a couple great prospects (Raequan Williams DT, Anree Saint Amour DE and Crawford DB). The Hawkeyes appear to be better positioned with those 2. It appears the top prospects remaining are:

Raequan Williams - DT/DE
Tevis Bartlett - LB
Anree Saint Amour - DE
Chris Hart - DE
Jonathan Crawford - DB

What I find interesting is that the Hawkeye coaches appear to be ready to offer over the 85 limit? Presently, there are 83 schollies when counting the 17 athletes in the 2015 class. Figure Willies and Markell Smith get schollies, that places the Hawkeyes at the 85 limit. That said, what will the Hawkeye coaches do at signing day if there is no attrition on the present roster or the 2015 class.
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they won't have that problem, there is always attrition one way or the other
 
Couple of big decisions coming up soon for Iowa recruiting.....


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Don't like the vibe coming from Bartlett, and also coming from Iowa.....as Iowa has moved onto other LB recruits which means they don't know what Bartlett is going to do, and are trying to cover their bases.
 
Whispers out there that we will miss on both Bartlett and Raequan Williams. That would be a big blow, we spent a lot of time and effort on those two. Ughhhh
 
Churlish79 said:
I think the Hawkeyes are going to miss on Williams.

That's very disappointing.
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We just can't seem to beat mid to upper division Power 5 conference schools for recruits. It seems like people are not optimistic on Hart or Saint-Armour either. But these are the types of recruits we need. We don't need a team full of Rivals 250 players, but we need to be able to beat the Washingtons, North Carolinas, MSUs, Wisconsins, and so on for some of our recruits.
 
drew003 said:
We just can't seem to beat mid to upper division Power 5 conference schools for recruits. It seems like people are not optimistic on Hart or Saint-Armour either. But these are the types of recruits we need. We don't need a team full of Rivals 250 players, but we need to be able to beat the Washingtons, North Carolinas, MSUs, Wisconsins, and so on for some of our recruits.
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Big blow to Iowa recruiting today, especially since Williams is probably going MSU. Now instead we will have to rely on "developing" 2 different 2 star guys to hopefully fill those spots.
 
Getting beaten out by Mich State is all the more painful..

That program was a garbage dump.. and now it's beating us out or swooping in late/giving us fits..
 
Churlish79 said:
Getting beaten out by Mich State is all the more painful..

That program was a garbage dump.. and now it's beating us out or swooping in late/giving us fits..
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That's a good point. It was one thing when OSU or Michigan would swoop in late and steal a guy an Ohio or Michigan kid we had been recruiting for months. That hasn't happened in a while, but that's probably because we aren't even landing fallback recruits for those schools. But MSU is now starting to do that, and the kids aren't even from Michigan.
 
It's a path we've been on for a long time.............little changes as we usually find ourselves reaching deeper into the cookie jar as recruiting window begins to wind down each year. Soon the less touted candidate names will arise.

Can't be critical of effort and time the staff exercises on some of these candidates but there's something else missing when you're treading water with the likes of IL and PUR on the recruiting front as of late...........coaches clearly on the hot seat with programs that have struggled for years. Illinois has two winning seasons in the last seven years, Purdue has one.
 
MSU and Wisconsin are no longer in our tier of peer schools. They are clearly a full level above us. Why in the world would any defensive player pick Iowa over MSU at this point?
 
Let's see, we lost a recruit to Kansas earlier this week and now one to Indiana. Well at least we're giving some of the elite storied programs a run for the money with some of these recruits.

This is the basketball forum, right?
 
I feel like it's almost too easy for programs to use our coaching situation (in addition to our boring play) against us in recruiting right now.

This is a mess. I was really excited about how this class could finish. No longer.
 
I wonder what we pitch to kids. KF called us a "developmental" program. He constantly talks about how hard the kids work, embracing the grind, breaking the rock, that sort of thing. Those are great messages to kids on campus. I'm not sure that's a great way to sell some 17 year old high school kid from Tampa who has always been one the best athletes on his team and has (probably unrealistic) dreams of sacking the QB as a true freshman and doing a sack dance on national television.

Now we don't have to play into these kids' delusions of grandeur, but there is probably some middle ground between telling a kid he will start as a true freshman and get to mash a ton of girls and telling him that he will spend 3 years in the weight room at 6:00 am developing his body, a couple years outside the 2-deeps learning the schemes, and will get his feet-wet on on special teams as a RS sophomore.
 
Recruits are not stupid, they hear Ferentz in the middle of a season talking about playing time for a player and then him seeing the bench the whole game. They see better players riding the bench because Kirk gives preferential treatment to the upperclassman. Why would you want to play for Kirk other than the fact there's a slim chance you might make it to the NFL and play. 1-2 people out of every season...maybe.
 
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