To the true Hawkeye Fans...

wundergrape said:
I was born when Hayden Fry was our head coach. How about you?

There's a thin line between 'clever' and 'wrong.'
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I was born when Bucky O'Connor was the mens basketball coach and Forest Evashevski was the football coach. Although since neither of my parents are college sports fans, I didn't start following the Hawks until the coaches were Ralph Miller and Ray Nagel, some time in junior high.

That being said, I agree wundergrape. There is a fine line between "clever" and "wrong". I see more and more posters here going toward "wrong", even "hooiganism" (see below)

I'll leave you with Wikipedia's definition of "sports fan": A sports fan can be an enthusiast for a particular athlete, team, sport, or all of organized sports as a whole. Sports fans often attend sporting events or watch them on television, and follow news through newspapers and Internet websites. The mentality of the sports fan is often such that they will experience a game, or event while living vicariously through players or teams whom the fan favors. This behavior manifests itself in a number of different ways, depending on the venue. At a stadium or arena, sports fans will voice their pleasure with a particular incident, player, or team by cheering, which consists of clapping, fist-pumping, or shouting positive exclamations toward the field of play and ultimately, the favorable object. Likewise, displeasure toward a particular incident, player, or team may be met by fans with booing, shouting of expletives, and sometimes throwing of objects onto the field. This violent type of fan reaction is often called hooliganism.
 
wundergrape said:
I hear this a lot - that Mr. Davis had essentially BJ, Marble and Horton and then...10 years of mediocrity.

The truth is that in Davis' final ten years we went to six NCAA tournaments, finished in the top 5 of the conference seven times, in the top-3 three times and had an above .500 tournament record.

We weren't awful, and were national players in '93, '96, and '99 - years in which we were ranked basically wire-to-wire.
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Also - and I hate to belabor the point but hey, that's what I do - Tom Davis at Iowa 2.0 was one of the unluckiest runs for program that I can remember. If Street had lived we would have been title contenders in 1993. If Settles's back had held up, we would have made a run in 1997. Either of those two things happen and Steve Alford would never have been hottubbin' somewhere else...
 
1hawkeye1 said:
Jeeez, enuff with the "I'ma great fan why can't the rest of you be like me" crap already.
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You can't have it both ways, 1hawkeye1. You call me out for being an optimist when we're down - I'll call you out for being a cynic when we're back up. That's the way it works.
 
The fans haven't changed at all. Not one iota.

What has changed is the advent of social media and the almost instantaneous knowledge of anything typed, spoken, tweeted or emailed.
 
wundergrape said:
You can't have it both ways, 1hawkeye1. You call me out for being an optimist when we're down - I'll call you out for being a cynic when we're back up. That's the way it works.
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He didn't tell you to stop being optimistic. He said stop trying to make other people do the same.

Now I'm not sure if we're talking about different kinds of sports fans or the pushy religious people.
 
I was at the game yesterday and I was appalled at the lack of fan involvement. The student section was pretty much a non-existant (Tons of open seats), no excitement, nothing!! Anyone who has ever played "competitive" sports knows how much it means to have an electric crowd/ fans. We can't expect them to always do their part when we as fans DON"T do ours.
Maybe it was the freezing weather, maybe people had a sleeper of a sermon at church, maybe we just have fans who want to sit on their @sses and not be fired up about the fact we will be dancing. We didn't play a great game, but the majority of fans had a HORRIBLE game. I said to my wife, "WOW, it's like a morgue in here!" Hilton kicks CHA up and down the river and twice on Sundays!
So if you want to B*tch about how Fran coaches or how this player or that player had a bad game, then maybe we need to do ours! JUST SAY'N
 
tm3308 said:
He didn't tell you to stop being optimistic. He said stop trying to make other people do the same.

Now I'm not sure if we're talking about different kinds of sports fans or the pushy religious people.
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I don't recall telling other people to be optimistic. I'm more of a "make fun of them because they aren't" type of guy.
 
Seth53 said:
The fans haven't changed at all. Not one iota.

What has changed is the advent of social media and the almost instantaneous knowledge of anything typed, spoken, tweeted or emailed.
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There are many posters to this thread that would disagree wholeheartedly...
That the advent of instantaneous media has 'curdled' the Iowa fan... Some posters think some Iowa fans were 'curdled' long ago.
 
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tm3308 said:
He didn't tell you to stop being optimistic. He said stop trying to make other people do the same.

Now I'm not sure if we're talking about different kinds of sports fans or the pushy religious people.
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Or pushy gay rights advocates or atheists... hey, isn't this a sports forum, only?
 
Seth53 said:
The fans haven't changed at all. Not one iota.

What has changed is the advent of social media and the almost instantaneous knowledge of anything typed, spoken, tweeted or emailed.
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Precisely. I would imagine in the halcyon, gauzy days of Forest Evashevski and Bucky O'Connor of the 50s or Hayden and Lute through early Tom Davis of the 80s that there were just as many "untrue" Hawkeye fans as there are today. We just heard about it in coffee shops and bars, and the occasional Letter to the Editor, not on websites.
 
I have not read much of this thread. Any time a poster starts with a "true" anything i pretty much know a load of drivel is close behind.
 
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True fans don't rush the court, want to paint the water tower and want the students moved to the first few rows surrounding the court. They also hate that Ferentz shows no emotion but that Fran shows too much emotion.
 
hawkeye5 said:
I was at the game yesterday and I was appalled at the lack of fan involvement. The student section was pretty much a non-existant (Tons of open seats), no excitement, nothing!! Anyone who has ever played "competitive" sports knows how much it means to have an electric crowd/ fans. We can't expect them to always do their part when we as fans DON"T do ours.
Maybe it was the freezing weather, maybe people had a sleeper of a sermon at church, maybe we just have fans who want to sit on their @sses and not be fired up about the fact we will be dancing. We didn't play a great game, but the majority of fans had a HORRIBLE game. I said to my wife, "WOW, it's like a morgue in here!" Hilton kicks CHA up and down the river and twice on Sundays!
So if you want to B*tch about how Fran coaches or how this player or that player had a bad game, then maybe we need to do ours! JUST SAY'N
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I was not surprised at the student section or the lack of fans getting into the game. A few times Iowa has had a packed house with a full student section the team has not responded well. Big disappointments against MSU, Ohio State, and Wisconsin.
 
hawkeye5 said:
I was at the game yesterday and I was appalled at the lack of fan involvement. The student section was pretty much a non-existant (Tons of open seats), no excitement, nothing!! Anyone who has ever played "competitive" sports knows how much it means to have an electric crowd/ fans. We can't expect them to always do their part when we as fans DON"T do ours.
Maybe it was the freezing weather, maybe people had a sleeper of a sermon at church, maybe we just have fans who want to sit on their @sses and not be fired up about the fact we will be dancing. We didn't play a great game, but the majority of fans had a HORRIBLE game. I said to my wife, "WOW, it's like a morgue in here!" Hilton kicks CHA up and down the river and twice on Sundays!
So if you want to B*tch about how Fran coaches or how this player or that player had a bad game, then maybe we need to do ours! JUST SAY'N
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This is some stupid ********.
 
No, because ******** about how other people watch a basketball game is creepy and useless.
 
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