Time to Eliminate Kickoffs in College Football?

I disagree completely. Not only should we keep it, but we should let the receiving team cut block like back in the 40's and 50's. That will slow down the kickoff team and be hilarious to watch. Not to mention orthopedic surgeons will make a fortune.
 
Eliminating kickoffs is a good idea. After a touchdown, give the other team the ball on the 30, unless you are onside kicking. It will save a lot of injuries.
 
You know what will save a lot more injuries? Eliminating football altogether. Stupid idea.
 
Rules like that would NOT be good for Iowa. Most teams would line up and go for the first down against Iowa or run a fake and get a first down.
 
I think they should just go "make it take it" pickup bball style. You score you keep the ball...

That is essentially what it would be....I'm going for it if I am a coach....the worst that could happen is you give your defense a short field to defend...they fail and it's a scoring wash. Right back where you started.
 
Kickoffs are more dangerous than punts? Ask any punt returner who was nearly decapitated by Tim Dwight if they agree with that statement.

Violent hits on KO returns are not common, because the returner has the ball a few seconds before the coverage arrives.

Perhaps there are blockers getting injured, but I don't think it's anymore common than other injuries.

What's next? No more sacks? No more receivers going over the middle?

I think people will stop watching if it becomes flag football.
 
Requiring all players wear this would also reduce injuries and it would do less damage to the integrity of the game in the process.

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Like many I'm not a fan of this idea at all. Primarily, because I think kickoff returns and special team play can create some of the most exciting plays of a game not to mention changing the momentum of a game. Realizing that defensively we as Hawk fans would would have much better field position, I'd still hate to give up the excitement of a good kick return.
 
Before even considering this (my first reaction is simply NO) I would want to see some stats showing all injuries in college football last year and on when they occured. Breaking it down to serious and nonserious injuries would be helpful as well. That way you could really evaluate whether or not injuries, and serious injuries, are significantly more likely to occur on kickoffs. If the number is significant than I would be open to the discussion of an alternative but still not sold.

Hey Jon - first you lobby for the championship game to be played indoors and now this? Grow a pair ;)
I agree 100%. How many kickoffs were there last year in the ncaa? How many got hurt? I mean come on if you do anything enough times you could get hurt. Unless you want all the players to have a controller and play x-box. Oh wait then they would have carpel tunnel.
 
Why not make line drives up the middle a foul ball? Or make loose balls an automatic held ball? Don't screw with the purity of the game. Football is a high risk/high reward activity. This is the reason we all chose to play the damn game in the first place.
 
I agree 100%. How many kickoffs were there last year in the ncaa? How many got hurt? I mean come on if you do anything enough times you could get hurt. Unless you want all the players to have a controller and play x-box. Oh wait then they would have carpel tunnel.

you have no idea on the stats. i'm at work now. will post them hopefully tonight. was at a sports medicine conference a month ago and a couple of the leading authorities on concussions spoke. one of the guys is a consultant with the NFL and lead the charge to get the changes we have seen in the NFL.

i can't emphasize this enough. by far the most concussions happen on kickoffs!!!!! but, even with the research, some people still miss that. you don't see the long term effects of multiple concussions till far down the line. it really is eye-opening.

this isn't about "being a man". if it is then i'm a man's man as i've had at least three myself, once where i was knocked out for several minutes. this is about protecting people from the long-term damage that can come from concussions. this is something i hope KF learns sooner than later.
 
Dude, you are wasting your time going up against the chest pounding and cage rattling crowd. They are not swayed by facts and data.

I still say change the kickoff to a punt, with a drop kick equating to an onside kick.

I would also take away the penalty for kicking out of bounds. Instead, place any kick out of bounds at the spot it went out, or at the 20 if it goes out between the 20 and the goal line. If you change kickoffs to a punt, there will be more intense shanks.
 
you have no idea on the stats. i'm at work now. will post them hopefully tonight. was at a sports medicine conference a month ago and a couple of the leading authorities on concussions spoke. one of the guys is a consultant with the NFL and lead the charge to get the changes we have seen in the NFL.

i can't emphasize this enough. by far the most concussions happen on kickoffs!!!!! but, even with the research, some people still miss that. you don't see the long term effects of multiple concussions till far down the line. it really is eye-opening.

this isn't about "being a man". if it is then i'm a man's man as i've had at least three myself, once where i was knocked out for several minutes. this is about protecting people from the long-term damage that can come from concussions. this is something i hope KF learns sooner than later.

Then don't play football, very simple.
 
you have no idea on the stats. i'm at work now. will post them hopefully tonight. was at a sports medicine conference a month ago and a couple of the leading authorities on concussions spoke. one of the guys is a consultant with the NFL and lead the charge to get the changes we have seen in the NFL.

i can't emphasize this enough. by far the most concussions happen on kickoffs!!!!! but, even with the research, some people still miss that. you don't see the long term effects of multiple concussions till far down the line. it really is eye-opening.

this isn't about "being a man". if it is then i'm a man's man as i've had at least three myself, once where i was knocked out for several minutes. this is about protecting people from the long-term damage that can come from concussions. this is something i hope KF learns sooner than later.
Yes that was my point and what I was agreeing to. If the stats show that out of the 119 teams, avg kisckoffs of say 60 per season is 7,140, give or take. Now if there are several hundred injuries out of that, we should discuss changes, if there are a thousand, we need to change things, if there are 5 to 10, well thats the game and no one is forced to play it. It is sad when it happens, but like I said if you work with siccors everyday you would be hard pressed to go 19 years (7,140 divided by 365) without cutting yourself, same as any other job/sport or whatever.
 
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Then don't play football, very simple.

It will always be a violent game, but it doesn't have to ruin lives. the average lifespan for an NFL lineman is 54 off the top of my head. is that acceptable? obviously for you, but then again that doesn't effect you. what if you could still have a game but save people from dementia and all kinds of other terrible things later in life?

Sports: A huge problem

oops, i was wrong, its 52, and 55 for people who play in the league for more than 5 years.
 
perhaps we should stop playing football because 70,000 people heading to one spot increases the probability of a deadly car accident
 
you have no idea on the stats. i'm at work now. will post them hopefully tonight. was at a sports medicine conference a month ago and a couple of the leading authorities on concussions spoke. one of the guys is a consultant with the NFL and lead the charge to get the changes we have seen in the NFL.

i can't emphasize this enough. by far the most concussions happen on kickoffs!!!!! but, even with the research, some people still miss that. you don't see the long term effects of multiple concussions till far down the line. it really is eye-opening.

this isn't about "being a man". if it is then i'm a man's man as i've had at least three myself, once where i was knocked out for several minutes. this is about protecting people from the long-term damage that can come from concussions. this is something i hope KF learns sooner than later.

Finally, a sensible poster.
For all you gorillas out ther that are in favor of keeping kickoffs, I am willing to bet none of you played beyond high school, if even at that level.

I played college football and believe me, NO PLAYER, on our team was excited about kick-off teams, especially playing on the return wedge. Why? Because concussions were so common that even super tough linebackers who loved to hit hated getting jacked up by a guy who had a 40 yard sprint, while a returner had at best 10 yards. The physics just don't work in your favor. Over the 4 years that I played, 11 players had major concussions...and these are the ones where players were either knocked out cold, wobbly kneed getting off the field, or visibly incoherent once they got to the sidelines. This does not include what we used to call 'getting your bell rung' which is still a minor concussion.
I am an (un)lucky recipient of 2 major concussions and at least half a dozen smaller 'bell rung' concussions. The major ones were scary and both occurred on kickoffs/kick off returns. Losing memory and being completely disoriented are not enjoyable experiences.

Concussions are not about being a tough guy. Your melon is essentially sponge cake and does not function well when jostled around in a bottle (your skull). Eliminating kickoffs is an excellent idea. Punts, on the other hand, do tend to be less violent as the players are generally slowed down by receiving team players at or near the line of scrimmage. Additionally, the punt allows the returner to fair catch the ball.

Eliminating kickoffs obviously will not make the game completely safe. But shouldn't we all be in favor of players NOT being severely injured.

One more point: When I talk with my former teammates, we have recently been very concerned about the concussion thing with football. We are all starting to have kids or already have small kids and many of us (including some of the toughest guys I have ever met and damn good football players - some former NFLers) are seriously considering steering our kids away from football. This is not because we are pansies, it is because we lived it and have seen it up close and are very concerned with the long-term effects of concussions. Unlike most other injuries, concussions have long, lingering negative consequences. Just some added insight.
 
You guys act like they have no choice in the matter, they dont have to try and run it back, infact they dont have to play at all. I am all for safety. I was an electrician for many years, some people dont like something they cant see, smell or hear coming but could kill you, me huh, all in a days work and if I didnt like it guess what I didnt have to do it.
If you start here, then I assume next will be no head/face shots in boxing. Or sticks that bend in hockey. Better eliminate pitchers cuz I am sure there is a risk of catching a line drive to the head/face.
Oh and we always called them a stinger. I understand the concern and as I said, if the numbers are there, you have to change things, noway around it.
 
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