This just in.....Nebraska is HORRIBLE...Frost Bite Program

Mr. Davis had 1 Sweet 16 with his own recruits. 1 out of 10 years. If you don't want to acknowledge the obvious difference in his record with Raveling's recruits vs without....then that's your choice.
Thats not the point of this argument. The point is as bad as you say davis was, he has success that we'd kill for the past 20 yrs. How many sweet 16's have we had in the past 20 yrs? 9 NCAA's in 14 yrs vs 6 in 19 yrs. This isnt even a debate. On every level Mr. Davis's track record outshines the past 19 yrs post Tom by light years.
 
Thats not the point of this argument. The point is as bad as you say davis was, he has success that we'd kill for the past 20 yrs. How many sweet 16's have we had in the past 20 yrs? 9 NCAA's in 14 yrs vs 6 in 19 yrs. This isnt even a debate. On every level Mr. Davis's track record outshines the past 19 yrs post Tom by light years.
No. I wouldn't kill for a rerun of the Tom Davis years - post Raveling recruits. YOU WOULD. Because you love mediocrity. Just because Gutless Gary and Boob Bowelsby can't hire a basketball coach...doesn't mean Tom Davis was John Wooden Jr.
 
Well, I know what you mean, but Texas didn't come along until the Big 12, and totally owned them, and that is why they ran away, thinking they could do better in the Big 10.
True. I meant Oklahoma.
Gotta coach up my posting execution better.

But you’re right about Texas and why they left the XII.
 
Thats not the point of this argument. The point is as bad as you say davis was, he has success that we'd kill for the past 20 yrs. How many sweet 16's have we had in the past 20 yrs? 9 NCAA's in 14 yrs vs 6 in 19 yrs. This isnt even a debate. On every level Mr. Davis's track record outshines the past 19 yrs post Tom by light years.
We’re not about appearances. We’re about Final Fours. Stop settling for mediocrity.
 
Iowa bar is offering free beer if Nebraska ever wins a game.

Lol when they finally find a win I strongly suggest that they don't wash the occasion away with booze. Who knows how long it could be until they find a second win.
 
So in your analysis Iowa basketball has proven to be better since Tom Davis as opposed to significantly worse? Thats what you are arguing? I dont disagree that he wasnt national coach of the year material. My point is that we thought we could do much better and for the last 19 yrs and 3 coaches our program barely registers on the national radar. Yes, this is much better. Fail.

First off you shouldn't ever say fail in a post again. You posted that Tim Duncan, as a high school SR, somehow led WF to a victory over Iowa in the NCAA tournament.

Second I never said that Iowa’s program was better since Davis left it. It’s been much worse.

You put the blame on the state of Iowa's program on Davis being let go. What I said was that I put the blame on an administration that didn’t put money into the program. They made things worse by hiring a guy who is a prick and horrible fit for the community and then trumped that by hiring a guy who should be coaching high school basketball. But its my belief that it wouldn't have mattered who the coach was, the program was heading for a cliff.

I believed it then and still believe it now that the risk Bowlsby took hiring Alford was the right move at the time. He knew Davis had topped out at Iowa and he wanted more. It backfired. But keep in mind, Alford, asshole and all, is still coaching and is at a blue blood school. Davis only coached a dead end program since Iowa let him go.
 
First off you shouldn't ever say fail in a post again. You posted that Tim Duncan, as a high school SR, somehow led WF to a victory over Iowa in the NCAA tournament.

Second I never said that Iowa’s program was better since Davis left it. It’s been much worse.

You put the blame on the state of Iowa's program on Davis being let go. What I said was that I put the blame on an administration that didn’t put money into the program. They made things worse by hiring a guy who is a prick and horrible fit for the community and then trumped that by hiring a guy who should be coaching high school basketball. But its my belief that it wouldn't have mattered who the coach was, the program was heading for a cliff.

I believed it then and still believe it now that the risk Bowlsby took hiring Alford was the right move at the time. He knew Davis had topped out at Iowa and he wanted more. It backfired. But keep in mind, Alford, asshole and all, is still coaching and is at a blue blood school. Davis only coached a dead end program since Iowa let him go.
Don't you just love the "it didn't work out, so lets never, ever, ever try to better our program again!" mentality? It's for losers. Only losers settle for mediocrity. Gutless Gary perpetuates that mind set and these guys lap it up.
 
Don't you just love the "it didn't work out, so lets never, ever, ever try to better our program again!" mentality? It's for losers. Only losers settle for mediocrity. Gutless Gary perpetuates that mind set and these guys lap it up.

Lol we have been trying. We keep hiring hot commodities and they keep failing. News flash it's not the coaches. It's how dirty are their hands. With Barta at the helm with his mentality we will never be as good as any of us want. No coach not even John Wooden is building a national championship team at Iowa with straight up recruiting. At least be aware of what you are really asking for.

I don't know how good an Iowa team can be without playing the game for recruits but I'm pretty sure it isn't even elite 8.
 
Lol we have been trying. We keep hiring hot commodities and they keep failing. News flash it's not the coaches. It's how dirty are their hands. With Barta at the helm with his mentality we will never be as good as any of us want. No coach not even John Wooden is building a national championship team at Iowa with straight up recruiting. At least be aware of what you are really asking for.

I don't know how good an Iowa team can be without playing the game for recruits but I'm pretty sure it isn't even elite 8.
I know exactly what I am asking for. I know exactly what Gutless Gary is. Who the F*** do you think you're talking to? Save your "news flashes" for the idiots you usually hang out with.
 
I know exactly what I am asking for. I know exactly what Gutless Gary is. Who the F*** do you think you're talking to? Save your "news flashes" for the idiots you usually hang out with.

I'm talking to you. The guy that keeps claiming we need some miracle coach to be great. That we haven't tried. We are complacent. All that crap you spew. Yet you say that you know already that we need to bend the rules to get the recruits that could actually get where you cry about getting.

News flash: I hang out in here a lot so maybe you are the idiot I "usually hang out with".
 
I'm talking to you. The guy that keeps claiming we need some miracle coach to be great. That we haven't tried. We are complacent. All that crap you spew. Yet you say that you know already that we need to bend the rules to get the recruits that could actually get where you cry about getting.

News flash: I hang out in here a lot so maybe you are the idiot I "usually hang out with".
You're an idiot. A real moron.
 
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Who are you people? We're in a thread about our hated rival to the West who can't seem to win a game and we're hijacking the thread by arguing over past Iowa Coaches??? Take it to another room fellas in this thread we unite and bash all things Frost and Lil Debbie.
 
Their leading RB in carries just left the program. He started the first 3 games and last game got over shadowed by Ozigbo in 1 game and he bolts less than a week later. The program is an absolute dumpster fire. Sometimes firing every coach doesn't solve things.
 
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