There is no doubt in my mind....

tweeterhawk said:
Oh, please. You don’t think thin-skinned Fran didn’t let Barta know how he felt when he learned of the King Kong comment. And don’t forget reporters were told Fran would not answer questions about Dolph during his post-game newser.
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He very well may have. But his comments on the matter haven't appeared in print, as Bob claimed.
 
PCHawk said:
How can you possibly believe that? It seriously made me laugh out loud when I read it. If it wasn't you that wrote it, I would have assumed it was sarcasm it sounds so dumb. Fran branded a guy a racist and got him fired because some tickets he gave away 3 years ago?

I'll say it again. If Fran has the power to make this happen, it would have happened after the Dailey incident. Fran clearly wanted him gone and had a pretty damn good reason to make it happen. People would have been pissed but having the voice of the program rip a player on the air like that is a reason that holds water. The timeline you suggest doesn't add up.

Fran hates Dolph over a ticket issue years ago.

Dolph screws up bad enough that no one would have been surprised if he never called another game again.

They release a statement saying there was already issues between them.

Dolph goes back to work for another 10 games or so.

Dolph gets suspended over something that 99.9% of the fanbase think is complete bs.

Make me understand TK. Why did they even bring him back when it was way cleaner and easier to cut tied after the Dailey comments? They could have had a clean break, but instead chose to delay the inevitable a couple more months, ruin his life, and make themselves look like complete fools instead. Why would they do that? Do you think Fran and Barta actually discussed firing him 2 months ago but Fran convinced him that losing his job isnt enough? He needs to be ruined too to get even over those tickets.
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I can't explain it to you because you're too naive.
 
tweeterhawk said:
Oh, please. You don’t think thin-skinned Fran didn’t let Barta know how he felt when he learned of the King Kong comment. And don’t forget reporters were told Fran would not answer questions about Dolph during his post-game newser.
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I really don't think so. Fran may not care for the guy but he's got a lot more important stuff to worry about than a King Kong reference to a player. He prob doesn't even listen to the radio broadcast. I suspect if someone told Fran about the comment, I could see Fran chuckling a little bit while saying "Boy, that ain't good." I think he could care less about this kind of shitick.

I think Dolph was on a short leash/suspension and Learfield or whoever they are prob got a call from some oversensitive tree hugging fan/radio listener and the execs went to Dolph. People in this society really need to loosen the F up.

Dolph was referencing the play of the player and as a compliment, not the stature or skin color of the player. Whoever had a problem with it is actually doing more harm by putting emphasis on the latter.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
Make a public apology for what, exactly? Dolph said/did NOTHING WRONG.
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I am really torn on this issue, as well as the open mike incident. You can make a good argument that it was not Dolph’s fault that the production crew screwed up. The embarrassment Dolph felt would have, along with an apology, been enough.

As to the latest incident, I am convinced that Dolph was being nothing but complimentary with his remark. I think the suspension was overkill. As to an apology...all I would ask is for Dolph to say that he meant no harm and understands that his comment could be misunderstood and he has learned not to make that error again. Fair compromise?
 
MelroseHawkins said:
I really don't think so. Fran may not care for the guy but he's got a lot more important stuff to worry about than a King Kong reference to a player. He prob doesn't even listen to the radio broadcast. I suspect if someone told Fran about the comment, I could see Fran chuckling a little bit while saying "Boy, that ain't good." I think he could care less about this kind of shitick.

I think Dolph was on a short leash/suspension and Learfield or whoever they are prob got a call from some oversensitive tree hugging fan/radio listener and the execs went to Dolph. People in this society really need to loosen the F up.

Dolph was referencing the play of the player and as a compliment, not the stature or skin color of the player. Whoever had a problem with it is actually doing more harm by putting emphasis on the latter.
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Fran can be a dick in post game pressers and gets pissed during games (90% of which is related to having his player's backs). Besides that, pretty much everyone who knows him says he is a great guy.

If there was any way to find out for sure if Fran is behind this, I would bet 1000 dollars that he's not and feel pretty darn good about the bet. If Fran wanted him off games bad enough to do this, then Dolph would have been off games after the Dailey incident. "Gary, we simply can't have the voice of the Hawkeyes talking bad about our players in front of a live mic". It would be done already.

This whole King Kong deal is either a legit reason to fire him or it's not. If it is a legit reason, then Fran has nothing to do with it. He's fired over the legit reason. If it's not a legit reason, then why keep him here after he gave you a legit reason to fire him, just to use a not legit reason later?
 
This guy would never have anything to do with this situation. He's above it all. :rolleyes:

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MelroseHawkins said:
This has absolutely nothing to do with on air broadcasting by another guy. What the F is your point? Not everything is a conspiracy theory.
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You're correct. Gary Barta never consulted with Fran about the Dolph situations. Fran is an outsider in this thing. Stop attacking White Magic!
 
tksirius said:
Not this guy! This guy is a stand-up dude!
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Seemed pretty calm.

tksirius said:
This guy would never have anything to do with this situation. He's above it all. :rolleyes:
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Google "angry coaches". Do you think they're all capable of orchestrating a smear campaign? It's a meaningless video unless that's your claim. And then it's just ridiculous.

You like to imagine that your powers of insight are greater than most others around here, but you're trafficking in speculation just like everyone else. No matter how much you try to pretend otherwise.
 
VAHawkFan said:
Seemed pretty calm.



Google "angry coaches". Do you think they're all capable of orchestrating a smear campaign? It's a meaningless video unless that's your claim. And then it's just ridiculous.

You like to imagine that your powers of insight are greater than most others around here, but you're trafficking in speculation just like everyone else. No matter how much you try to pretend otherwise.
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How many of those angry coaches had their athletic dept issue press releases that mentioned the head coach and voice guy having ongoing tensions with each other?
 
tksirius said:
How many of those angry coaches had their athletic dept issue press releases that mentioned the head coach and voice guy having ongoing tensions with each other?
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There are legit reasons for the tensions. Dolph was an idiot for letting Wisconsin fans have those seats. Not a bad guy. Just an idiot. And when I say an idiot, I dont mean he is an idiot. I mean his decision is idiotic. I'm surprised he survived the Dailey incident. It was unfortunate and true, but it was also inexcusable. It's tough to keep him around after that one. Fran has every right to be pissed about it and it would almost be wrong of him to not at least act pissed about it in public. He has to defend his player there. He handled it like he had to.

Those are 2 pretty good reasons to not like a guy. But you would have to have absolute hatred for a man to do what you are suggesting.
 
tksirius said:
How many of those angry coaches had their athletic dept issue press releases that mentioned the head coach and voice guy having ongoing tensions with each other?
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Fran wasn't in sole control of that messaging. And suggesting that it was included at his behest...well, like I said, speculation. I know your opinion of Barta, so don't try to convince me that you think it beyond the realm of possibility that he came up with that misguided missive himself. No?

Sure it would have been run by Fran, and he may have signed off on it, but there's nothing pointing to him as the catalyst. That may be the case. It may not. Frankly, if Fran were looking to drop something like this on Dolph it would be far wiser to keep those tensions out of the public eye, not thrust them into the spotlight.
 
Presuming Fran wasn't involved in this at all after considering the totality of information available is naive. That's my opinion and it's probably due to some unconscious bias I have towards angry coaches or something. I'll suspend myself.
 
SpiderRico said:
....that this whole Dolph thing has Fran and Margaret written all over it. They both are vindictive enough to make it happen and Barta is spineless enough to allow it to happen.

I’m 99.99% sure, as well, that that is exactly what Jon is intimating in his article without coming out and saying it outright. Especially in light of how both Fran and Margaret have treated other media members during their time here.
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Yup!
 
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