clicheusername3
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774.7 mi - IC to State College
1,169.0 mi - Ames to Tallahassee
about 400 miles. thats about an hour or less on a plane, so not sure it makes much difference honestly.
Talk of FSU and Clemson to Big 12.
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774.7 mi - IC to State College
1,169.0 mi - Ames to Tallahassee
about 400 miles. thats about an hour or less on a plane, so not sure it makes much difference honestly.
According to US News, in terms of academics, Rutgers is ranked 68, VA-25, and UNC-29. So yes Rutgers is the weakest. Several Big 10 schools are ranked around Rutgers. Iowa is 71. This also brings up the argument that Florida State may not want to leave a prestigous group of universities in terms of academics for the Big 12. The ACC has 5 schools in the top 35. Pretty impressive.
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wundergrape
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Technically they are all tied at 45. You could debate the criteria used to come up with the rankings, but my point was that Rutgers is rated lower than VA and UNC on pretty much every list I've seen.
Yes but what does FSU gain from this? Does the ACC have a research arm like the B1G has with the CIC? If, by association, FSU can receive grant money then yes a move away from the ACC is a bad idea but if TV football money is an economic driver for FSU then it's possible they would leave.
MisterLucky
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ISU had better hope FSU and Clemson DON'T join the Big 12. They need weaker schools, not stronger, it they're going to get that Rhoads statue and monument built. Falling back to 2-3 victories a year won't cut it.
From what I've read, they must not be gaining much because FSU is broke. They have a chance to make a lot more money in the Big 12. There are lots of people saying it could happen, (mostly blogs, we know who realiable those can be) but I think it's still a long shot.
BlackandGold81
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Or to put it another way is to say it is only 50% farther.
If FSU doesn't reap financial reward through athletics and/or academics by association with ACC schools I'm wondering what's keeping them in it?
Again, if the ACC doesn't have a similar system to the B1G (CIC) FSU really has no reason to turn their nose up to the Big 12 based upon academics. So then it would be an issue of financial gain through football, right?
eyekwah
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In analyzing the options concerning the Big 12, ACC, and Big East there are several possibilities beyond expansion of the existing conferences. To wit let's examine creation of a "super" conference from the more powerful members of all three conferences.
Big 12 Nominees: Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Kansas
ACC Nominees: Florida St, Miami, Va Tech, North Carolina, NC State, Clemson
Big East Nominees: Louisville, Cincinnati
Under this concept you might pick off one or two SEC schools; say Arkansas and Vanderbilt to make 14 teams and it creates a east-west conference in the most populous time zones. In addition it become more geographically and culturally united. Additionally the conference isn't weak academically.
It may seem radical to some, but you have to think outside the current boxes. The idea of four 16 teams conferences seems radical, but after a while you can see it could happen.
Big 12 Nominees: Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Kansas
ACC Nominees: Florida St, Miami, Va Tech, North Carolina, NC State, Clemson
Big East Nominees: Louisville, Cincinnati
Under this concept you might pick off one or two SEC schools; say Arkansas and Vanderbilt to make 14 teams and it creates a east-west conference in the most populous time zones. In addition it become more geographically and culturally united. Additionally the conference isn't weak academically.
It may seem radical to some, but you have to think outside the current boxes. The idea of four 16 teams conferences seems radical, but after a while you can see it could happen.
hawkfan1319
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DwayneTwill
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It's not that breathtaking since this scenario isn't going to happen.
spliff45
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Florida State's Board of Trustees chairman blasts ACC...now willing to see what Big 12 has to offer.
Warchant.com - FSU BOT Chair blasts ACC, opens door for Big 12
Warchant.com - FSU BOT Chair blasts ACC, opens door for Big 12
hawkfan1319
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Gaining a little steam but idk why ISU fans are so excited .....just another team to put them further down the totem pole.
hawkfan1319
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My god went to their boards and they are being spammed by the lower Big 12 team fans.
Yes, it could potentially put ISU in a harder position to rise among the other teams in the conference. But this also further solidifies the conference, bumps up the pay through tv rights to the school, and could potentially open more of a recruiting ground in Florida as well.
I think a lot of the "excitement" by ISU fans is the mere fact that instead of worrying about where we are going to end up in the realignment talk, we get to be on the opposite side in safety because its about teams are coming to the Big XII.
slickwillard
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Because it further strengthens a big 12 that was just last year on the verge of folding. Building the Big12 footprint also opens up recruiting and add more money into the programs. Take off your hate glasses for a bit and it makes sense for folks to get a bit excited.
GhostofBTT
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Stop acting like the Big 12 footprint and recruiting areas are teh same as Iowa state's footprint and recruiting areas. It doesn't matter who teh Big IX brings in, you'll still be in recruiting battles with South Dakota State and Eastern Michigan, and you'll still have exclusive broadcasting rights on Mediacom 22 and FSN Dakotas.
