Story: Maishe Dailey Commits to Hawkeyes

FranklinHawk said:
I'm well aware of that, but do you see Koenig as the type of PG people are referring to here that is going to take guys off the dribble, penetrate, dish, etc.? I'm saying it shows that there isn't 1 exact skillset required to make a successful PG, guys with different skillsets can be successful based on the offense they are working in. Denzel Valentine probably played point more than MSU's true "point guard" last season.
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I just want a good PG, Koenig is obviously much better than what we'll have next year. When was the last time we had a PG average double figures or could break down a defense?
 
deanvogs said:
Since when is the measure of a recruit determined by whether they lead to a B1G title or not? If that is the measure then every recruit signed by Iowa over the last 35 years is a failed recruit.

I don't know if Dailey will be a good player, but I'm just not willing like you to blast away at it, we'll just because you seem to be having a fit about everything Iowa BB lately.
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I WANT A BIG TITLE! If freakn Connie can win 4 in the past 14 seasons.......I want 1 at Iowa. And I won't be easy on any head coach that fails to deliver that.
If you can't understand why we need PGs instead of 7 wings........I can't help you
FranklinHawk said:
You could argue that Wisconsin recently did 2 years in a row. Koenig is more of a combo guard than the pure drive & dish ultra-quick PG everyone seems to be talking about.
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Koenig is a PG.
 
WindsorHawk said:
In response to all of lightning drivel in this thread.

His athletic ability is above average. No 2 players have the exact same skill sets. Neither of the 2 players that left looked anything like Dailey in their highlight videos. I see a skill set that can translate to playing the point in Iowa's system.



Fran doesn't need a true point guard. A lot of the guys on this roster can handle the ball and help get it to the offensive end of the floor. There is no true point guard in our offense. The mismatches, athleticism and ability to finish will be far more beneficial.




Side Note - Are you suggesting a player must be within a certain height range to be a point guard? Magic Johnson says hello.



You've stuck your head in the sand and can't see anything. Do you know anything about Iowa basketball...or basketball in general?



We have bettcredibility and Better talent gets us closer to a conference title. And finishing tied for 3rd the last couple of years means we aren't that far away as it is.



We do have on-ball perimeter defenders. We have several players with the handles, size and length to break down Big 10 guards. No rational person expects a conference title next year. But several of us see the necessary talent on the roster to potentially win a conference title 2, 3 and 4 years from now.



And now you say he might be really good...after half a dozen posts saying he can't play. You are all thunder and no lighting...zero credibility.
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All of that bull shit and you still won't say we'll win a BIG title. Talk about zero credibility and less basketball IQ.
Any time you want to make a cash wager on whether or not Dailey starts on a BIG title team...just name the amount.
 
You don't need a true PG if you have guys like Devyn Marble on the team. Devyn had legit handles. We don't have that guy on this team. Not that I've seen, anyway. When you don't have 2 guys like that to fall back on, you better go get yourself some PGs or you're going nowhere.
Williams might be a serviceable PG but his handles are sub-par for a BIG PG. I haven't seen enough of Moss to know whether or not he can lead an offense.
You guys will find out soon enough. .
 
We have 2 guys on the roster next year that have played in a Big 10 game as a non freshman. It's fun to talk about expectations but it's dumb to pretend you know for sure how good or bad we'll be.
 
lightning1 said:
You don't need a true PG if you have guys like Devyn Marble on the team. Devyn had legit handles. We don't have that guy on this team. Not that I've seen, anyway. When you don't have 2 guys like that to fall back on, you better go get yourself some PGs or you're going nowhere.
Williams might be a serviceable PG but his handles are sub-par for a BIG PG. I haven't seen enough of Moss to know whether or not he can lead an offense.
You guys will find out soon enough. .
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I love how you have already written Williams off. He rarely played PG last year behind two seniors, and did so well in practice Fran was forced to play him at the end of the year at the wing. He will take some lumps this year, but the kid can play.

Ball handling is a skill that can easily be improved, size is not.
 
Can anyone find his stats for the season? I want to know how he shot from the line and 3 in particular. I did some looking but haven't found anything.
 
lightning1 said:
Here's the problem that we will have next year, in the BIG. We don't have any on-ball perimeter defenders. We don't have any players with the handles needed to break down a BIG guard. How is that a recipe for a BIG title? If someone here believes that it IS a recipe for a BIG title, please share.
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So only the PG is a player "with the handles needed to break down a B1G guard"? A lineup that most are talking about here is a lineup that will have mismatches. It would be the best mismatch that will be breaking down their player. There is no steadfast rule that such a player HAS to be a PG. Looking at the NBA, very few teams exclusively use the PG to break down their man and dish to the open player; many use a shooting guard or a small forward who has a mismatch.
 
Hawk5656 said:
When was the last time a team made the Final 4 without a PG?
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Without a "true PG"? Probably never. In an offense where the PG isn't the person running the offense? 2016 (and 2015 and 2014,.....) In a lot of the offenses today, the PG is merely a player to bring the ball across half court and then get it to the person the team wants to run the offense through. And against pressing teams, the PG does even less.
 
lightning1 said:
I WANT A BIG TITLE! If freakn Connie can win 4 in the past 14 seasons.......I want 1 at Iowa. And I won't be easy on any head coach that fails to deliver that.
If you can't understand why we need PGs instead of 7 wings........I can't help you

Koenig is a PG.
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If you think next year is a year that Iowa can compete for a B1G title even with an awesome graduate transfer PG, you are kidding yourself. Next year is a rebuild, to many young guys. If Bohannon isn't a legit B1G player, he will move on after next year, and I'd bet the same with one of Ellingson/Dailey, and we will have their scholarships available then. That is the way it works now, this isn't as big of a deal as you are making it out to be.
 
Knight78 said:
So only the PG is a player "with the handles needed to break down a B1G guard"? A lineup that most are talking about here is a lineup that will have mismatches. It would be the best mismatch that will be breaking down their player. There is no steadfast rule that such a player HAS to be a PG. Looking at the NBA, very few teams exclusively use the PG to break down their man and dish to the open player; many use a shooting guard or a small forward who has a mismatch.
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So true. You don't need a PG to beat his man off the dribble. You need someone to beat his man off the dribble. Since Marble, our key players haven't been able to do that. Next year seems like we have a few of them.
 
deanvogs said:
If you think next year is a year that Iowa can compete for a B1G title even with an awesome graduate transfer PG, you are kidding yourself. Next year is a rebuild, to many young guys. If Bohannon isn't a legit B1G player, he will move on after next year, and I'd bet the same with one of Ellingson/Dailey, and we will have their scholarships available then. That is the way it works now, this isn't as big of a deal as you are making it out to be.
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I think we could have made a run with a really good grad transfer at any position. There are no great teams next year. Wisconsin got hot and snuck up on some teams and their confidence grew. Kinda like Nebraska a few years ago. That won't necessarily carry over to this year. After them it's pretty wide open. Indiana would be good if they had a PG who could beat his man off the dribble. :)
 
“If you’re running set plays continuously, you kind of need that guy,” McCaffery said about a primary point guard. “Otherwise everybody’s driving and kicking and making plays. If we’re going to be a transition and motion team primarily, you have to have multiple people who can make a play off the dribble. You can’t be, ‘All right, everybody get the ball to the point guard and go get to your spots.’ That’s not how we play anyway.

“If you look at the collective ball handling of our team, our guards can handle it. Our forwards, a guy like Nicholas Baer, handles it well, I’m not worried about it.”
 
When we are averaging more turnovers than assists, we can revisit this thread and you guys can explain it all over again.
 
Its pretty obvious that Fran is high on Williams running the team after redshirting a year. I don't know if Dailey redshirts next year, but he has a ton of potential once he learns the Iowa system and has time to put some muscle on in the weight room. I think both of those guys, along with Moss will be stars for Iowa. The team is going to have athleticism that they haven't had in a long time. I think Moss and Williams are going to be scorers, and Dailey shot over forty percent from the 3 last year in high school. He definitely has the athleticism to get open for his shot. I like to think that Iowa will be a dangerous team next year, and they should be even better the year after.
 
ohhawk said:
“If you’re running set plays continuously, you kind of need that guy,” McCaffery said about a primary point guard. “Otherwise everybody’s driving and kicking and making plays. If we’re going to be a transition and motion team primarily, you have to have multiple people who can make a play off the dribble. You can’t be, ‘All right, everybody get the ball to the point guard and go get to your spots.’ That’s not how we play anyway.

“If you look at the collective ball handling of our team, our guards can handle it. Our forwards, a guy like Nicholas Baer, handles it well, I’m not worried about it.”
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We're not blind Fran. Right or wrong, that's exactly what you've done with Mike late in games.

The problem is not a lack of ballhandlers per say. The problem is I don't trust any of our players to make good decisions in key moments.
 
HawkAssassin said:
We're not blind Fran. Right or wrong, that's exactly what you've done with Mike late in games.

The problem is not a lack of ballhandlers per say. The problem is I don't trust any of our players to make good decisions in key moments.
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Well how could you possibly trust or not trust any of our players in key moments? Only one of our players have ever seen the court in a key moment.
 
PCHawk said:
Well how could you possibly trust or not trust any of our players in key moments? Only one of our players have ever seen the court in a key moment.
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Key moments aren't exclusive to the last 5 or so minutes.

When things got tight, everybody on the team lost their damn minds, played scared, or made dumb choices. It was not just one of our returnees this year.

Hopefully that mentality will change, but if it doesn't no amount of 4/5 stars will bring us the title we want.
 
lightning1 said:
When we are averaging more turnovers than assists, we can revisit this thread and you guys can explain it all over again.
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CAN WE CREATE A NEW THREAD, JUST FOR THIS PATHETIC SOUL? Then move along with the conversation?

I actually stop looking at this site as curious as I do, simply because of this POS.
 
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