Stanley's take on the game

I watch with my TV down and Dolph on - so I didn't hear the comments, was hoping there was some sort of link discussing them.
How do you time that out? Every time I've tried on Dish and now Hulu live the Iowa radio is way ahead of TV.
 
How do you time that out? Every time I've tried on Dish and now Hulu live the Iowa radio is way ahead of TV.
yeah, it's that way for me too if I do it straight from the radio...but it's pretty cool, when you use the tune in radio app - you get the call of the game, and you can actually pause it and get it pretty damn close to the TV. Been doing that for a couple of years cause I just can't stand the lack of knowledge most of those dudes have. It's not like Dolph has a wealth of knowledge either, and IMO, he's not the best play by play guy...in fact, pretty terrible sometimes, but I still prefer him over just about anyone TV trots out.
 
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You can see that Noah has his back after that throw. That had to suck so much for him, it's nice to see that his teams supports him
 
yeah, it's that way for me too if I do it straight from the radio...but it's pretty cool, when you use the tune in radio app - you get the call of the game, and you can actually pause it and get it pretty damn close to the TV. Been doing that for a couple of years cause I just can't stand the lack of knowledge most of those dudes have. It's not like Dolph has a wealth of knowledge either, and IMO, he's not the best play by play guy...in fact, pretty terrible sometimes, but I still prefer him over just about anyone TV trots out.
I actually really like to hear what other people say about Iowa even if it is a little uninformed. I feel the more informed the broadcasters are, the more relevant Iowa is. I can't stand listening to Dolph and I love hearing the crowd noise on TV for home games
 
You can see that Noah has his back after that throw. That had to suck so much for him, it's nice to see that his teams supports him

Noah's had some drops, it doesn't suddenly mean he's not the top TE in the country. Plays are missed.... often in football and sports in general. For every bad game Nate has had, he's had an equally as good. He's going to leave Iowa as one of the best QB's to play here regardless of what the message board warriors think.
 
He's going to leave Iowa as one of the best QB's to play here regardless of what the message board warriors think.
Why do people insist on implying that people who are just stating the facts are trying to be tough guys? Its like the whole "you're not a real fan" narrative.
 
Why do people insist on implying that people who are just stating the facts are trying to be tough guys? Its like the whole "you're not a real fan" narrative.

i dunno where I implied anyone was being a tough guy... I didn't think anyone was. I guess maybe the "warriors" part of that? Maybe that's where you think that? I dunno. - I was just really repeating the term that they used this week on Washed Up Walk On's to describe people calling for Stanley to be benched. They found it comical, it's a good listen to hear what players think of Iowa "fans" who turn on them the first chance they get. I wasn't implying anyone was trying to be "tough".
 
They found it comical, it's a good listen to hear what players think of Iowa "fans" who turn on them the first chance they get.
I think players need to recognize they also don't have an unbiased view. In most cases the person being called to task for poor performance is a friend. I know when some of my friends at work have screwed up I have to be careful not to get overly defensive of them when in fact they did screw up. Nate Stanley played god awful last Saturday. Stating that fact doesn't mean I've "turned on him" and I don't need to be called a "fan" in air quotes for stating the facts.
 
I think players need to recognize they also don't have an unbiased view. In most cases the person being called to task for poor performance is a friend. I know when some of my friends at work have screwed up I have to be careful not to get overly defensive of them when in fact they did screw up. Nate Stanley played god awful last Saturday. Stating that fact doesn't mean I've "turned on him" and I don't need to be called a "fan" in air quotes for stating the facts.

They know they're biased, Nate Stanley is all 3 of those guys friend. They also acknowledged how poorly he played. Stanley played like crap, he knows it, I know it, you know it, the players know it..... everyone knows it. There's not an issue with stating facts. Calling for a guy who's thrown 42 TD's in 22 games to be benched for a guy who hasn't taken a meaningful snap since HS, calling him a choke artist, saying that he doesn't have mental toughness, or doesn't produce in big games aren't facts, they're over the top, knee jerk reactions from butt hurt fans.
 
calling him a choke artist, saying that he doesn't have mental toughness, or doesn't produce in big games aren't facts
The performance would bear those out as facts. More often then not he has not been clutch in high pressure situations. Basically ISU last year is on the ONLY game I can name. He's shit the bed at least 5 times in the last two years when it mattered. He plays well when we're up big.
 
Why do people insist on implying that people who are just stating the facts are trying to be tough guys? Its like the whole "you're not a real fan" narrative.

Nobody "insists" on anything. Some people just don't like d-bags, constant negativity, or personal bashing on players. As to the "You're not a fan!" narrative, there have been a goodly number of people that have posted here that, indeed, were/are NOT Iowa fans, despite using monikers like "CherokeeHawk", "MisterIowa", etc.
 
The performance would bear those out as facts. More often then not he has not been clutch in high pressure situations. Basically ISU last year is on the ONLY game I can name. He's shit the bed at least 5 times in the last two years when it mattered. He plays well when we're up big.

That's where you're wrong and don't know the difference between opinion and fact. There is no fact that he doesn't produce in big games. He torched TOSU, ISU last year, ISU this year made a clutch throw to help seal the game. He played great against PSU last season. He's going to leave Iowa it's all time TD passing leader. He's had bad games, but so has Trace McSorley, so has Big Ben, so has every QB in the world.
 
Nobody "insists" on anything. Some people just don't like d-bags, constant negativity, or personal bashing on players. As to the "You're not a fan!" narrative, there have been a goodly number of people that have posted here that, indeed, were/are NOT Iowa fans, despite using monikers like "CherokeeHawk", "MisterIowa", etc.

I dunno - some dude on here by the name of "caddy" says Nate has no leadership qualities at all....according to Nobeer, dudes are just stating facts.
 
That's where you're wrong and don't know the difference between opinion and fact. There is no fact that he doesn't produce in big games. He torched TOSU, ISU last year, ISU this year made a clutch throw to help seal the game. He played great against PSU last season. He's going to leave Iowa it's all time TD passing leader. He's had bad games, but so has Trace McSorley, so has Big Ben, so has every QB in the world.
OSU wasn't a big game because we had nothing on the line at that point and we got up huge by halftime. Had we been up 21-7 at the half against PSU the game would have been different, which proves my point. The fact that he is crushing stats while losing to Wisconsin, PSU, Northwestern and anyone with a pulse doesn't make him clutch. He's racking up stats against Minnesota, Illinois, and the worst Husker team in decades on our division and against teams like Indiana in the East. He played well against PSU last year but we lost. I'm not putting that on him like this year's game was clearly on him. But the reality is, we lost. Its not clutch play if you lose.
 
OSU wasn't a big game because we had nothing on the line at that point and we got up huge by halftime. Had we been up 21-7 at the half against PSU the game would have been different, which proves my point. The fact that he is crushing stats while losing to Wisconsin, PSU, Northwestern and anyone with a pulse doesn't make him clutch. He's racking up stats against Minnesota, Illinois, and the worst Husker team in decades on our division and against teams like Indiana in the East. He played well against PSU last year but we lost. I'm not putting that on him like this year's game was clearly on him. But the reality is, we lost. Its not clutch play if you lose.

Tough to blame him for the other 21 positions on the field, though you're doing it with all those facts you're dropping on us. You know how football works right? Most QB's feed up on the weaker competition, it's how the sports work. You can literally say that about every QB in the country. Man, he sure plays well against weaker competition, not as good against good teams. Congrats, you just describe every QB that plays on every level from pop warner up. He hasn't been clutch enough for me either, but he's played clutch in big games before. You can say the TOSU game wasn't a big game, but that's a serious LOL. It was a night game in Kinnick, Iowa wore alt uni's and we spanked a top 5 opponent, that was a pretty big game and pretty big spot.
 
If he wins this weekend and performs well, will that be a big game in a big spot? In my opinion yes. The B1G West is still on the line and Iowa has to have this game. It's also on the road against a pretty good opponent. But I promise, to most of nellies ragging on him it will be a game against Purdue who is historically bad and that will just be Stanley feeding up on the weaker competition. It's a tough gig, fans are hard to please and like to have it both ways when dropping their "facts" .
 
Bama won a NC pulling a QB at halftime in the biggest game of the year and going with a freshman with very little experience. I'm in no way comparing the situations, but at what point do you have to go with your gut and take a chance. It's not about pride or standing behind your man, its about seeing what's going on during the course of the game and deciding if it's worth taking a chance or not. There's no right or wrong decision, and regardless of the outcome everyone here wanted an Iowa win, but to say either mindset is right or wrong is irrelevant. I think there's a good unbiased amount of us out there, that simply felt Stanley was struggling and our best chances of winning was putting the ball in the hands of someone else when the game was on the line. Whether that be Mansell or not, I'm equally surprised we didn't pound the ball on first and goal with a little over 3 minutes left.
 
If he wins this weekend and performs well, will that be a big game in a big spot?
It’s still Purdue. Lose/lose IMO. And I’m predicting we lose and he chokes. I’ll start an apology thread if we win on Stanley’s back but I think we either win in spite of him or we lose.
 
It’s still Purdue. Lose/lose IMO. And I’m predicting we lose and he chokes. I’ll start an apology thread if we win on Stanley’s back but I think we either win in spite of him or we lose.
That sure is going out on a limb.
 

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