If anything, this game made me more confident about using both qb's. If Rudock plays better when he feels the heat then this is a good thing. Then bring in CJ for at least a few series each game so he can use his feet and his big arm. If he is on fire or if Rudock is struggling he should get more. If Rudock is playing like today, limit Beathard's series's. This could work.
Sorry CJB, don't trust you with 16-pt lead
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If anything, this game made me more confident about using both qb's. If Rudock plays better when he feels the heat then this is a good thing. Then bring in CJ for at least a few series each game so he can use his feet and his big arm. If he is on fire or if Rudock is struggling he should get more. If Rudock is playing like today, limit Beathard's series's. This could work.
ibahawkeye
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I agree with what a lot of what others have said....
Ruddock was better today.
CJ still has most upside.
Kirk has a tough decision on how to handle moving forward.
Ruddock was better today.
CJ still has most upside.
Kirk has a tough decision on how to handle moving forward.
Stop CJ never even got a fair shot today. KF just pretty much gave the kid the middle finger today and that is all there is to it. Ruddock still has a middle arm and as well as he played today he still missed wide open we wr.
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HomerChampless
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Ferentz has already made his decision. Rudock is the starter. And CJB isn't going to get any better. He doesn't get enough playing time or practice time to get any better. That's KF's decision, too.
What goes into KF's decision on the starting QB? Certainly not the ability to score points. Certainly not offensive efficiency. It took an injury for CJB to get the start. I don't think what happened today (49 points) has anything to do with Ferentz' decision to name Rudock as starting QB.
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ThunderHawk
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Rudock will manage a win against a crappy to pedestrian D, most of the time. It's what he does. That's his limit. GDGD doesn't trust him to go deep unless it's a totes designated one-fer. It's almost exclusively "safe" passing. Not much improv.
If that's your desire for Iowa football, enjoy the ride. Tampa is nice in January I suppose.
Maryland will beat us handily.
If that's your desire for Iowa football, enjoy the ride. Tampa is nice in January I suppose.
Maryland will beat us handily.
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What are you talking about 'CJ didn't"? He didn't get an opportunity to get in a rhythm, he had one series and got axed. JR didn't have a very memorable first series either...should we have said, welp JR didn't have it today? That's a ridiculous way to look at this.
Hawkeyes1982x
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Are you truly surprised by this? KF even said this week it was a "feel" type of thing with the 2 QB play. He felt JR was the answer, and when it stalled he put in CJB. It stalled, he put back in JR. We got what we knew was coming all along. It's lame. FOSHO.
Kirk said he would play the hot hand. Jake was hot early. It's tough to pull a guy when he hits two long touchdowns. Scored the most points of the season and people are still up in arms about playing time. At the end of the day, it's Ferentz football. As soon as he feels comfortable with a lead, he goes with all safe options. Not saying it's a good thing all the time, but it's what we saw today. Whoever plays, just keep winning.
Rudock looked much better today. I still like CJs upside, but he really looked out of sorts today. Personally, I would take today's Rudock over a wildly inconsistent CJ for the rest of the season in a heartbeat. If Rudock goes back into his shell where he seems unable to see anything more than 7 yards down field, then I will want to take my chances with CJ again.
This is absolutely correct. Rudock earned the criticism he has gotten by playing poorly in the first three games and refusing to take chances with the ball, but today he proved he has addressed those concerns and looked like the better quarterback. CJ wasn't in rhythm and looked subpar on his first two serirs and did nothing to merit his staying in.
I know we were ahead but after the first quarter, it would have been silly to be comfortable with the lead we had given the easy scores we had given up, and the quarterback who was better suited to put points on the board today kept playing... there was no flaw in that logic by the coaching staff.
My question to the Rudock haters is what he did today that caused this discussion? I was completely ready for CJ after the ISU game and he looked great in his time as the starter, but today Rudock threw deep, took chances, played confidently, and led the offense to a very solid game. He has worked on his early shortcomings and become a better player for what has happened. Had he played the way early in the season he did today, there would be no controversy, and those who are still saying Rudock shouldn't be playing after today weren't paying very close attention.
FranklinHawk
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Hmmm. I could have sworn I saw him for more than 1 series yesterday. I'm not digging on CJ, but he was just really off with his passes. Several just weren't even close.
Look, they went with the hot hand (just like they said they would) and Jake played well. The next game it might be CJ. My point is anyone complaining about who got snaps in yesterday's game isn't going to be happy with anything other than CJ starting and playing, end of story.
HomerChampless
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Like I posted before, it's going to be a whole lot easier for Rudock to have the hot hand when he gets most of the playing and practice time. QB non-competition is rigged. Ferentz rigged it. Before the Indiana game.
I like Iowa's scores. I don't like the rigging of the QB non-competition at Iowa.
I like Iowa's scores. I don't like the rigging of the QB non-competition at Iowa.
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IAHAWK1982
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Okay now you are sounding like Jamie Pollard. Hope Jon doesn't consider that name calling. How do you know how many reps JR and CJ got during the previous two weeks? With JR's injury, I'm "guessing" CJ got most of the reps with 1st team the first week and as JR got healthier he got most of the reps the second week. Hawks have two good QBs and lets hope that if JR struggles then CJ will go in and save the day.
HomerChampless
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Let's look back one page in this thread.
That decision had nothing to do with the outcome of the Indiana game.
deanvogs
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Why do some act like a little child and have a tantrum if they don't get what they want? I'm a CJ guy, but if you take out a QB that scored 3 offensive TD's in the first quarter, you have to be crazy. Especially when you publicly say you are going good to play the hot hand.
If this were reversed and JR stalls in his first 2 or 3 drives, CJ comes in and leads a long TD drive, then hit a bomb play, and then Parker rips off a 60 yard run, you'd be screaming that CJ should never be taken off the field again.
WinOneThisCentury
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Nice post...so the throws over the middle to Tevan were safe throws? He's the starter and he played well yesterday...that's a positive. Why are the CJ supports such dickheads about the other guy playing well? I'm thrilled when CJ plays well also.
Think about this...how many other division one teams with 5-1 records entertain giving the back up QB snaps in the middle of a game. I'll bet it's zero. I think KF is doing a masterful job of managing his QBs. Very intelligent, strategic, and forward thinking.
WinOneThisCentury
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Oh, and I meant to add...bring on the thumbs downs from CJ's posse.
bws258
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Rudock is just the perfect combination of milquetoast and mediocre to keep the job. Why roll the dice on potentially-better, when you have barely-good-enough already out there on the field!? This message brought to you by coaches/fans/boosters who think 8-4 or 7-5 is a good season.
IAHAWK1982
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Potential doesn't guarantee you anything. How many points did Hawks score against Prudue with CJ in the whole game? 24. The Hawks are 5-1, there is a lot of season left and you talking about mediocrity? JR had a good game yesterday. Accept it.
