Sorry CJB, don't trust you with 16-pt lead

[hawkeyebob62]

It's also very obvious Rudock got most, if not all, the reps with the first stringers. If Ferentz truly wanted to see growth with both QBs, he would have Rudock practice with the ones at times and CJB practice with the ones at other times. We all see how well CJB performed when he got practice time with the ones (and how quickly he responded to the practice). Why would KF want to deliberately hurt his team by not practicing CJB with the ones at times? The only answer I can come up is KF doesn't see CJB contributing much to the team. He's made this decision already. He made this decision the week of the Indiana game. And well, we all know from Ferentz, if CJB doesn't get to practice with the ones, he doesn't get to play much.

CJB doesn't get to play much and that's KF's decision.

So you were at practice and saw who got the reps? And BTW, CJB was playing with first-stringers yesterday, aisde from an injured player or two.

Seriously, if you can't acknowledge the job JR did yesterday, not much can be said to convince you. Sort of like the old, "How do you keep a moron in suspense?" joke...

 

[hawkeyebob62]

K Martin Manley didn't turn his head around fast enough to see CJB's first pass and so it was incomplete. KMM wasn't used to the speed of CJB's pass. If KMM wasn't used to the speed of CJB's pass, he didn't practice with him much, and since KMM is a one, CJB didn't practice with the ones much.

Now you're just desperate. Stop, already. It's embarrassing to US to have watch YOU embarrass YOURSELF.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Jon doesn't have such insight in the program, from what I've seen in his articles and heard on his podcast. I think everyone is echoing one tweet from Marc Morehouse, which may or may not be accurate.

No matter what CJB does, his supporters excuse and spin, excuse and spin. They can't even support Rudock when he plays very well.

This. To a tee.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Rudock will manage a win against a crappy to pedestrian D, most of the time. It's what he does. That's his limit. GDGD doesn't trust him to go deep unless it's a totes designated one-fer. It's almost exclusively "safe" passing. Not much improv.

If that's your desire for Iowa football, enjoy the ride. Tampa is nice in January I suppose.

Maryland will beat us handily.

Do you even have a clue?

Never mind...

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Like I posted before, it's going to be a whole lot easier for Rudock to have the hot hand when he gets most of the playing and practice time. QB non-competition is rigged. Ferentz rigged it. Before the Indiana game.

I like Iowa's scores. I don't like the rigging of the QB non-competition at Iowa.

Good God, someone fetch the net. This guy is pretty much foaming...

 

[ArvadaHawk]

Nice post...so the throws over the middle to Tevan were safe throws? He's the starter and he played well yesterday...that's a positive. Why are the CJ supports such dickheads about the other guy playing well? I'm thrilled when CJ plays well also.

Think about this...how many other division one teams with 5-1 records entertain giving the back up QB snaps in the middle of a game. I'll bet it's zero. I think KF is doing a masterful job of managing his QBs. Very intelligent, strategic, and forward thinking.

Hawkeye Game Film posted a throw chart. JR threw a total of 7 passes more than 15 yards beyond the LOS. One was a PI and he was 3-6 on the rest. The throw to T. Smith was a very high throw and TS had to climb the ladder to get it and almost got chopped in half. JR is not accurate in the 15-25 yard range. He throws high.

Otherwise, every other throw JR made was less than 15 yards. We had two explosion plays on offense. Other than that, it was back to the horizontal passing game. Yesterday was an exciting win. But the perimeter run D was exposed and we will have to score no less than 31 to 34 points a game to win the West. Yes, JR managed the game very well. That's what he does. It is the type of offense he is capable of executing, and not his performance within that type of offense, that I am not happy about.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Potential doesn't guarantee you anything. How many points did Hawks score against Prudue with CJ in the whole game? 24. The Hawks are 5-1, there is a lot of season left and you talking about mediocrity? JR had a good game yesterday. Accept it.

Truth.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

Do you even have a clue?

Never mind...

https://twitter.com/tnels20/status/521020598232047618/photo/1

 

[ArvadaHawk]

I'll just say this. The folks that have been in favor of CJ over JR have not stated that JR isn't a good QB. The folks that are in favor of JR of CJ have tried to make the argument that the CJ backers are saying JR isn't a good QB.

It JR is a good QB. But he doesn't have or hasn't shown, or isn't trusted with utilizing the vertical passing game, in favor of the dink and dunk passing game. I am not unhappy with how JR performs within the dink and dunk offense, it is that he cannot execute the vertical offense. We are going to need the vertical offense to score a lot of points and win high scoring games.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

https://twitter.com/tnels20/status/521020598232047618/photo/1

Apropos of WHAT, exactly? JR had a good game yesterday. Why does it matter what the pass chart looks like? Our offense scored 21 first-quarter points, and an additional 10 in the second.

Did you even READ the post I was quoting?!

You folks need to talk your collective mouth away from CJBs butt long enough to watch the games.

I would have been fine with CJB getting more reps yesterday. He probably would have been fine if he started. But the "He didn't get a fair shot!" and "The wrong plays were called!" whining is pathetic.

He will get more reps this year, and probably at least one more start. KF, at some point, knows that keeping opponents focused on WHO the QB is will only help us, especially when they realize, too late, that it doesn't really matter. Either QB can run and execute well enough for the team to win.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

Apropos of WHAT, exactly? JR had a good game yesterday. Why does it matter what the pass chart looks like? Our offense scored 21 first-quarter points, and an additional 10 in the second.

Did you even READ the post I was quoting?!

You folks need to talk your collective mouth away from CJBs butt long enough to watch the games.

I would have been fine with CJB getting more reps yesterday. He probably would have been fine if he started. But the "He didn't get a fair shot!" and "The wrong plays were called!" whining is pathetic.

He will get more reps this year, and probably at least one more start. KF, at some point, knows that keeping opponents focused on WHO the QB is will only help us, especially when they realize, too late, that it doesn't really matter. Either QB can run and execute well enough for the team to win.

Well, Bob, I actually did read the post. I added the link to HGF's throw chart to your reply to ThunderHawk's post. So, please don't stroke out over it.

Originally Posted by ThunderHawk Rudock will manage a win against a crappy to pedestrian D, most of the time. It's what he does. That's his limit. GDGD doesn't trust him to go deep unless it's a totes designated one-fer. It's almost exclusively "safe" passing. Not much improv.

If that's your desire for Iowa football, enjoy the ride. Tampa is nice in January I suppose.

Maryland will beat us handily.
Do you even have a clue?

Never mind...

 

[Eda]

K Martin Manley didn't turn his head around fast enough to see CJB's first pass and so it was incomplete. KMM wasn't used to the speed of CJB's pass. If KMM wasn't used to the speed of CJB's pass, he didn't practice with him much, and since KMM is a one, CJB didn't practice with the ones much.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the Beathard took the majority (if not all) of the snaps with the 1's the week leading up to Purdue. In addition to the Purdue game, CJ played a half against Pitt, another series during Ball St, and played in several games last year.

I don't buy the "receivers aren't used to his passes" theory. I'd suggest you come up with a different shtick, you're starting to sound not smart.

 

[PCHawk]

So you were at practice and saw who got the reps? And BTW, CJB was playing with first-stringers yesterday, aisde from an injured player or two.

Seriously, if you can't acknowledge the job JR did yesterday, not much can be said to convince you. Sort of like the old, "How do you keep a moron in suspense?" joke...

So are you ever gunna tell us the punch line? You're killing me here!

 

[HomerChampless]

Why do some act like a little child and have a tantrum if they don't get what they want? I'm a CJ guy, but if you take out a QB that scored 3 offensive TD's in the first quarter, you have to be crazy. Especially when you publicly say you are going good to play the hot hand.

If this were reversed and JR stalls in his first 2 or 3 drives, CJ comes in and leads a long TD drive, then hit a bomb play, and then Parker rips off a 60 yard run, you'd be screaming that CJ should never be taken off the field again.

Don't put words in my mouth especially when they aren't mine. Jake had a fantastic day. He should start. I'm grousing because Ferentz (and everyone else) is saying the starting QB will be the one who has the hot hand in practice. I'm saying it's much easier for Jake to have the hot hand in practice because he gets more playing time and more practice time. I'm also saying it would be, IMO, more forthright in validating the starting QB as the one with the hottest hand in practice if the offensive coaches were to even up practice time between the 2 QBs. Really see who has the better practice instead of, IMO, anointing one having the better practice, because I don't think KF is capable of overseeing a good offense.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Well, Bob, I actually did read the post. I added the link to HGF's throw chart to your reply to ThunderHawk's post. So, please don't stroke out over it.

Originally Posted by ThunderHawk Rudock will manage a win against a crappy to pedestrian D, most of the time. It's what he does. That's his limit. GDGD doesn't trust him to go deep unless it's a totes designated one-fer. It's almost exclusively "safe" passing. Not much improv.

If that's your desire for Iowa football, enjoy the ride. Tampa is nice in January I suppose.

Maryland will beat us handily.
Do you even have a clue?

Never mind...

So, in other words, you agree that Maryland will beat us handily?

 

[hawkeyebob62]

So are you ever gunna tell us the punch line? You're killing me here!

Uh (sounding like Butthead)..huh-huh-huh-huh...I like...forgot, or something?

 

[PCHawk]

Uh (sounding like Butthead)..huh-huh-huh-huh...I like...forgot, or something?

I read that in Butthead's voice.

 

[HomerChampless]

It's funny. Those who disagree with my ideas of Iowa practice think I need to be at practice to prove my points about practice. I use deduction. For example, I'm going to bring a raincoat tomorrow because I'm confident it's going to rain tomorrow. Not because I can see it rain tomorrow, but because, today, every meteorologist says it's going to rain 1-3 inches tomorrow.

How do I know Jake gets most of the practice time (no question he gets most of the playing time)? The way the first stringers react to CJB's pass. They don't react well. They're still not accustomed to the speed of CJB's pass. Next, I see the change in plays called for CJB in a live game from last to the Indiana game. Next, I see CJB's timing seems to have deteriorated from the last game to the Indiana game. Adding it all up you can conclude Jake got more of the practice time leading up to the Indiana game making Jake the better practice player and the starter.

How was Jake's timing so sharp against Indiana even though he missed the previous 1 1/2 games and consequent practice time? Especially when the QB who practiced the best would be the starter?

 

[Eda]

It's funny. Those who disagree with my ideas of Iowa practice think I need to be at practice to prove my points about practice. I use deduction. For example, I'm going to bring a raincoat tomorrow because I'm confident it's going to rain tomorrow. Not because I can see it rain tomorrow, but because, today, every meteorologist says it's going to rain 1-3 inches tomorrow... that the likelihood of rain tomorrow is high.

How do I know Jake gets most of the practice time (no question he gets most of the playing time)? The way the first stringers react to CJB's pass. They don't react well. They're still not accustomed to the speed of CJB's pass. Next, I see the change in plays called for CJB in a live game from last to the Indiana game. Next, I see CJB's timing seems to have deteriorated from the last game to the Indiana game. Adding it all up you can conclude Jake got more of the practice time leading up to the Indiana game making Jake the better practice player and hence the starter. How was Jake's
timing so sharp against Indiana even though he missed the previous 1 1/2 games and consequent practice time?

Analogy fail. In your scenario you have multiple people telling you it's going to rain. In reality you have one tweet sent out in the middle of the week saying what's happening that week.

As for the assertion that nobody is ready for CJ's pass because they don't get to see it in practice (btw, I feel like I am dumber for even having to type that sentence)… And how do you explain the Pitt game? He came in at half time and everyone adjusted to his pass without a problem. Some even said receivers ELEVATED their game because CJ was in. Whar the elevation during the Purdue game!? Whar the elevation against Indiana!?

As for Jake's timing being so sharp… Do you suppose that may come from working with the same group of people for a year and a half, derp?

 

[OkstHawk]

Potential doesn't guarantee you anything. How many points did Hawks score against Prudue with CJ in the whole game? 24. The Hawks are 5-1, there is a lot of season left and you talking about mediocrity? JR had a good game yesterday. Accept it.

Hey, how many times did CJB lose to ISU this season? Just saying...JR hasn't necessarily been tearing it up this season in case you've missed it.