Sorry CJB, don't trust you with 16-pt lead

Ummm...do the posters in this thread know that KF said that JR was clearly the starter, but that CJ would get game time. What the hell did you expect? If Rudock is playing well and we are scoring points, he's going to play the majority of the game. If he's struggling and we need a spark then CJ may get more of the snaps.

If Rudock plays like he did today, CJ isn't going to see more than a series or two and eventually that may be reduced if we keep winning with JR getting the majority of the playing time.
 
HawkIPA said:
It's R-U-D-O-C-K.
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oy vey...would you please tell that to my spell check on cell device...for the record, I don't purposely misspell any player or coaches name...never intentionally, it is not in my nature. Didn't mean to offend you or any other grammar police.
 
ICHawk24 said:
CJB's limited throws were absolutely terrible. I would have put Rudock back in, too.

I like CJ, but he didn't appear to have it today.
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What are you talking about? JR didn't have it on the first drive either but you don't pull him, you give him some snaps so he can get into a rhythm.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Ummm...do the posters in this thread know that KF said that JR was clearly the starter, but that CJ would get game time. What the hell did you expect? If Rudock is playing well and we are scoring points, he's going to play the majority of the game. If he's struggling and we need a spark then CJ may get more of the snaps.

If Rudock plays like he did today, CJ isn't going to see more than a series or two and eventually that may be reduced if we keep winning with JR getting the majority of the playing time.
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It's also very obvious Rudock got most, if not all, the reps with the first stringers. If Ferentz truly wanted to see growth with both QBs, he would have Rudock practice with the ones at times and CJB practice with the ones at other times. We all see how well CJB performed when he got practice time with the ones (and how quickly he responded to the practice). Why would KF want to deliberately hurt his team by not practicing CJB with the ones at times? The only answer I can come up is KF doesn't see CJB contributing much to the team. He's made this decision already. He made this decision the week of the Indiana game. And well, we all know from Ferentz, if CJB doesn't get to practice with the ones, he doesn't get to play much.

CJB doesn't get to play much and that's KF's decision.
 
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ColoradoHAWKEYE said:
oy vey...would you please tell that to my spell check on cell device...for the record, I don't purposely misspell any player or coaches name...never intentionally, it is not in my nature. Didn't mean to offend you or any other grammar police.
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Being the grammar police is about the only thing IPA has going for him...it's certainly not making cogent or coherent points (pause 10 minutes so IPA can look those words up on the google machine).
 
HomerChampless said:
It's also very obvious Rudock got most, if not all, the reps with the first stringers. If Ferentz truly wanted to see growth with both QBs, he would have Rudock practice with the ones at times and CJB practice with the ones at other times. We all see how well CJB performed when he got practice time with the ones (and how quickly he responded to the practice). Why would KF want to deliberately hurt his team by not practicing CJB with the ones at times? The only answer I can come up is KF doesn't see CJB contributing much to the team. He's made this decision already. And well, we all know from Ferentz, if CJB doesn't get to practice with the ones, he doesn't get to play much.

CJB doesn't get to play much and it's KF's decision.
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Now how can you say that comment that I bolded? Unless you have some total insider info you cant say that.

I think CJ just had a rough start and did not throw the ball well today but I also thought the plays under him were iffy
 
K Martin Manley didn't turn his head around fast enough to see CJB's first pass and so it was incomplete. KMM wasn't used to the speed of CJB's pass. If KMM wasn't used to the speed of CJB's pass, he didn't practice with him much, and since KMM is a one, CJB didn't practice with the ones much.
 
I've been pushing for CJ to get more QB snaps all season, but the QB rotation made sense today.
CJ was off on his passing routes today with his receivers.
 
OkstHawk said:
Wow, feel horrible for CJB. Here's a guy that was entrusted with the offense for the 2nd half of the Pitt game (in which he flat outplayed the starter) and then played a great second half on the road in his first college start only to have KF takes the keys away when the Hawks have a 16-point lead. Nothing says 'fair' competition like that. JR had one good quarter against a horrible Indiana defense (they gave up 45 to Bowling Green too) and then it was the same old Iowa. For his sake, I hope CJB takes the first bus out of Iowa City at the end of the semester and heads to some place where he gets an opportunity to showcase his abilities.
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Agree 110%
 
theboat said:
Obviously the rules aren't the same for both QBs. Rudock leads a TD drive, gets to stay in. Beathard leads a TD drive, he doesn't. Rudock goes three and out, gets to stay in. Beathard goes three and out, he doesn't.

Rudock might give us a better chance to beat the terrible teams on the schedule today, but Beathard is still the QB with tons more upside that Iowa needs if it wants to do anything more than go 7-5/8-4 against an incredibly weak schedule.
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But but jake got an A+ once on a test!!

how dare youuuuu
 
OkstHawk said:
Wow, feel horrible for CJB. Here's a guy that was entrusted with the offense for the 2nd half of the Pitt game (in which he flat outplayed the starter) and then played a great second half on the road in his first college start only to have KF takes the keys away when the Hawks have a 16-point lead. Nothing says 'fair' competition like that. JR had one good quarter against a horrible Indiana defense (they gave up 45 to Bowling Green too) and then it was the same old Iowa. For his sake, I hope CJB takes the first bus out of Iowa City at the end of the semester and heads to some place where he gets an opportunity to showcase his abilities.
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I had no problems with KF putting JR back in. Somewhat relieved at that point in time. And yes, I'm sure you would be leaving town. I'm guessing CJB is a bit tougher than you, and probably understands his play today quite well.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Ummm...do the posters in this thread know that KF said that JR was clearly the starter, but that CJ would get game time. What the hell did you expect? If Rudock is playing well and we are scoring points, he's going to play the majority of the game. If he's struggling and we need a spark then CJ may get more of the snaps.

If Rudock plays like he did today, CJ isn't going to see more than a series or two and eventually that may be reduced if we keep winning with JR getting the majority of the playing time.
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I don't think KF ever said Rudock is "clearly the starter". Yes, he did say Rudock was starting this game.

Q. Did you find any clarity at quarterback, or is that more look at the film and then
COACH FERENTZ: No, just again, it was a weird deal the way things went. But the only thing I walk away feeling about like I did coming in here. That’s one position where I think we have two guys we can win with. And that’s a really good thing.
 
uihawk82 said:
Now how can you say that comment that I bolded? Unless you have some total insider info you cant say that.

I think CJ just had a rough start and did not throw the ball well today but I also thought the plays under him were iffy
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Jon's article said Jake did in fact get most of the 1st string reps during the bye week...
 
herky01 said:
Jon's article said Jake did in fact get most of the 1st string reps during the bye week...
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Jon doesn't have such insight in the program, from what I've seen in his articles and heard on his podcast. I think everyone is echoing one tweet from Marc Morehouse, which may or may not be accurate.

No matter what CJB does, his supporters excuse and spin, excuse and spin. They can't even support Rudock when he plays very well.
 
ICHawk24 said:
Jon doesn't have such insight in the program, from what I've seen in his articles and heard on his podcast. I think everyone is echoing one tweet from Marc Morehouse, which may or may not be accurate.

No matter what CJB does, his supporters excuse and spin, excuse and spin. They can't even support Rudock when he plays very well.
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Thumbs down
 
I think that maybe CJ should have gotten another series after his first 3 and out. Other than that I think it was managed pretty well. I think it was 50 50 who should play after Beathard's score. I wouldn't have had a problem either way.
 
They both can and will play. JR played well today, CJ kept a couple drives alive with his feet but was a little off with the throws.

Still want to see both get meaningful snaps in games...like they did today. JR was better today...we Won!

When/if we lose...this topic will go crazy.
 
Holy Mother of God, it's pretty simple. Jake had it today and CJ didn't (missed some throws HORRIBLY). Could be the opposite next week, but anyone thinking CJ got a raw deal today has already made up their mind and just wants to *****.
 
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