Smith Calls Out Stanley In Postgame

ModebaSan ok I just want to make sure I have your call sign correct so I can correct you once we lose either the Purdont game and/or the NW game. At the beginning of the year I had Minnesota in the definite win category not anymore.
You got it! Good.
 
What have you seen from this team that makes you think we can beat either of them? At this point I'd be surprised if we even make a bowl game. One TD in two games is fucking unconscionably bad. We weren't facing some juggernaut defenses. I really don't think we win more than 6 games this season.
Purdue is badly beaten up. They have significant injuries everywhere. Their defense is so porous that Rutgers could beat them on a good day. Northwestern’s offense is much worse than ours. You think we got problems, take a long hard look at their o-line.
 
The bolded part did make me chuckle a bit. How many times has this been said about NW and they beat Iowa? Quite a few I'd imagine because they've beaten Iowa a lot over the last 15 years.

You can't assume anything with Iowa. Good or bad. Particularly the bad
The bolder part was completely by accident if I did that. Maybe someone else bolded it for me. Idk.
 
The bolder part was completely by accident if I did that. Maybe someone else bolded it for me. Idk.

Oh I bolded it because I've said that exact same thing so many times. And several times, quite a few in person, I've stood by thinking, "How in the hell is Iowa getting beat by these guys?"
 
Oh I bolded it because I've said that exact same thing so many times. And several times, quite a few in person, I've stood by thinking, "How in the hell is Iowa getting beat by these guys?"
Yeah, I see your point. But The Wildcats are just barely above Rutgers in offense. We didn’t get our revenge against Penn St. yet, and probably not against Wisky either barring a miracle or two. But I believe we can break the cycle against Purdue and NW this year. At least that is my hope.
 
You can't assume anything with Iowa. Good or bad. Particularly the bad

And isnt that a bad deal and it shows that Iowa is not a strong enough program. Strong, perennial, top 20 programs win 9 games a year or more. They do not lose to weaker teams very often. They win big games. Kirk's teams used to be like this but not so much the last few years.
 
And isnt that a bad deal and it shows that Iowa is not a strong enough program. Strong, perennial, top 20 programs win 9 games a year or more. They do not lose to weaker teams very often. They win big games. Kirk's teams used to be like this but not so much the last few years.

Those seem like relatively arbitrary qualifications. There aren't many teams that consistently win 9+ games a season. Even fewer that don't lose to a weaker team or two most seasons. I'm as negative on Iowa right now as anybody, but I'm not really in line with your thinking. Technically, we haven't lost to a weaker team yet this season. *knocks on wood*
 
I'm not anti-Stanley, and I suspect Petras is going to have some serious growing pains next year if and when he starts. But it's really not acceptable for a 3rd year QB with his height and size to regularly miss short passes like the slant that he threw to Smith in the EZ. There was not heavy pressure, and that throw can't be blamed on the O-line. Make that simple pass and it's a completely different game. It's a pass that h.s. QBs make consistently, and MAC QBs complete 90% of the time. It gets back to 'accuracy', the thing that QB Guru/Coach Walsh has said is the most important trait of successful QBs, and the one thing that cannot be taught. Stanley is usually a solid QB when given time to throw, but he'll probably not get any better than he is now...book it.
 
Those seem like relatively arbitrary qualifications. There aren't many teams that consistently win 9+ games a season. Even fewer that don't lose to a weaker team or two most seasons. I'm as negative on Iowa right now as anybody, but I'm not really in line with your thinking. Technically, we haven't lost to a weaker team yet this season. *knocks on wood*

Go back through Iowa's records since 2006-7 and you will see those losses to Central (twice) and Western Michigan, some less talented jNW teams, two losses to extremely bad Minny teams, an almost loss to Ark St. , Purdue and Indiana.

I hope they win out this year and if they win the next two but still lose to Wisky then they will really have the pressure of the West Div title off their minds and could win the last 3 to finish 9-3.

But strong teams do not have sputtering offenses like we have year after year.
 
I wonder if Jackson and Wirfs have gotten any guard reps in practice.

We're at the point now where we may have to move one or both of them over until this damage is under control, and take our chances with Kallenberger and Plumb at the tackle spots.

This may sound silly or desperate, but so is our situation. Our future opponents are watching these games too.
But that would be like admitting mistakes in recruiting, player development, offensive planning. Won't happen. Beat Purdue/Minnesota/Nebraska...bowl, claim another great year, bonus. Rewind.
 
I'm not anti-Stanley, and I suspect Petras is going to have some serious growing pains next year if and when he starts. But it's really not acceptable for a 3rd year QB with his height and size to regularly miss short passes like the slant that he threw to Smith in the EZ. There was not heavy pressure, and that throw can't be blamed on the O-line. Make that simple pass and it's a completely different game. It's a pass that h.s. QBs make consistently, and MAC QBs complete 90% of the time. It gets back to 'accuracy', the thing that QB Guru/Coach Walsh has said is the most important trait of successful QBs, and the one thing that cannot be taught. Stanley is usually a solid QB when given time to throw, but he'll probably not get any better than he is now...book it.
He often throws where the receivers were, especially on the key plays that define a game.
 
Go back through Iowa's records since 2006-7 and you will see those losses to Central (twice) and Western Michigan, some less talented jNW teams, two losses to extremely bad Minny teams, an almost loss to Ark St. , Purdue and Indiana.

I think we also had a loss to Northern Illinois and North Dakota State in that stretch as well. Did you include those in your analysis?
 
Go back through Iowa's records since 2006-7 and you will see those losses to Central (twice) and Western Michigan, some less talented jNW teams, two losses to extremely bad Minny teams, an almost loss to Ark St. , Purdue and Indiana.

I hope they win out this year and if they win the next two but still lose to Wisky then they will really have the pressure of the West Div title off their minds and could win the last 3 to finish 9-3.

But strong teams do not have sputtering offenses like we have year after year.

We lost to Central Michigan once and that was in 2012 one of our worst seasons under KF. CMU was probably the better team that year.
 
A lot of improvements are needed, no doubt, but 1/2 the reason for the offensive problems lies with the fact we just played against two elite defenses, full of 4 and 5 star guys, most likely. Even elite NFL offenses can struggle when they play elite defenses.
 
We lost to Central Michigan once and that was in 2012 one of our worst seasons under KF. CMU was probably the better team that year.

Wait a second. We lost to Central Mich early in the season before both Off Tackles got hurt against Penn St which was the collapse part of the season.

After the hawks lost to CMU they beat Minny at home and a good Sparty team on the road to start the Big 10 at 2-0. Iowa was the better team than CMU but they for some reason were not pumped up enough or the coaches underplayed their coaching. Not sure.
 
1/2 the reason for the offensive problems lies with the fact we just played against two elite defenses

Points given up by Michigan and their elite defense so far:
21 MTSU
21 Army
35 Wis
0 Rut
3 Iowa
25 Lovie

Did they just try harder against the Hawks? Or maybe MTSU, Army, & Illannoy have better players on offense?

The problem isn't the losses- it's that the primary cause of the losses is going to be the OC until he becomes the HC, and that's not a fun thought.
 
I think we also had a loss to Northern Illinois and North Dakota State in that stretch as well. Did you include those in your analysis?

Thanks but iirc Northern Illinois in 2013 was a Top 10 team , maybe went 12-0 so they were better or as good as us especially since Rudock was playing his first meaningful snaps because for some ungodly reason Kirk wouldnt play him during some bad games in the last half of 2012.

The hawks werent much better than NDSU in 2016, probably deeper, but out coached. It took sort of a fluke first half sack-INT to get NDSU going but they came back in the end because of Kirk's chronic inability to get a first down to ice a game.
 
Points given up by Michigan and their elite defense so far:
21 MTSU
21 Army
35 Wis
0 Rut
3 Iowa
25 Lovie

Did they just try harder against the Hawks? Or maybe MTSU, Army, & Illannoy have better players on offense?

The problem isn't the losses- it's that the primary cause of the losses is going to be the OC until he becomes the HC, and that's not a fun thought.

Michigan is 14th in total defense in NCAA. PSU is 4th.
 

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