OUTofTOWNHAWK
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Wow this must be big for you. Not very often a purple panther gets to run to other schools board and brag.
Seth Tuttle
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Wow this must be big for you. Not very often a purple panther gets to run to other schools board and brag.
Fairfax
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Yeah it kind of is. I might have said "....run to another schools board..."
Fairfax
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deanvogs
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He isn't a purple panther, he is a Ketchup and Mustad kind of guy.......ISU troll all the way for Fairfax.
mopkins
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school's, chode
deanvogs
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Spot on......but it doesn't fit the trolls narrative, so they just keep trolling.
RocknRollface
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Guess who else didn't offer Tuttle. Tom Izzo Bo Ryan Fred Hoiberg, and every other major coach in the country.
Any of you that think the path to success in the big ten is to land guys who's only other offers are from UNI are imbeciles.
Yes there are plenty of mid major guys that end up good enough to be major conf. players as upperclassmen, Tuttles turned out to be one, but if you go offering a bunch of those types your going to end up with something much closer to a Todd Lickliter team than a Michigan state.
Any of you that think the path to success in the big ten is to land guys who's only other offers are from UNI are imbeciles.
Yes there are plenty of mid major guys that end up good enough to be major conf. players as upperclassmen, Tuttles turned out to be one, but if you go offering a bunch of those types your going to end up with something much closer to a Todd Lickliter team than a Michigan state.
HawgEyeState
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It really doesn't matter one da** bit 'how good they were coming out of high school'.
What the heck does that matter?
IOWA could have projected that Seth Tuttle was a Greg Brunner, like STUDhorse
But, they didn't. They thought other players would be better, by now.
And they made some horrible choices, like NOT offering Tuttle, but offering the
project from Georgia, who couldn't walk and chew gum
Same is going to be said about Morgan and Lohaus, before their college careers are
done. Sad but true
Fairfax
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There are a ton more kids that flame out because they were good out of high school than kids like Tuttle. It's about being a good evaluator. Ben Jacobson is obviously pretty good.
deanvogs
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Man your act is old.
Using your strategy of only reaching for the "next best" Iowa players, our roster would look like this:
2014: Lohaus, Bonifas, Baer
2013: Ted Friedman, Jeremy Morgan
2012: Kale Abrahamson, Staten, Mading Thok
2011: Washpun, Tuttle, Bohannon
That team wouldn't win games against DII schools. If you just want to take Iowa "projects" that is what your squad would look like. In that bunch you got Tuttle, and Washpun that are good
Lets see how you can do without 4 years of hindsight. Since your strategy of taking non ranked Iowa kids:
You want David Dileo, who would you cut that Fran has signed to take him? (Hutton, Wagner, Moss, or Fleming)
You want Brady Ernst, who would you cut to sign him?
deanvogs
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For once, and intelligent post from Fairfax. You don't just offer kids cause they are from Iowa, you offer cause you see that you have a good player or one that you can develop.
glidinghawk
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I give credit to Jacobson and his staff for player development. Tuttle struggled his first two years, but has really improved in all areas of his game in his last 2 years.
On the flip side, Woody has yet to develop much of anything. Huge miss.
glidinghawk
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Good point.
Some kids reach max potential at 18 and some reach max potential at 30. Just like kids hit puberty at different times. Everyone is a little different. It's not a good idea to fill a roster with kids who don't look like D1 players in high school on the hopes that they are just a late bloomer. You will be wrong way more than you're right.
Another thing to think about is how much having confidence plays into how good you are. If a player is slightly better than his mid major opponents, it probably allows him to get more confident as the weeks go by, making him even better. If that same player goes against players just as good as him or slightly better, they don't have the chance to build confidence. If Tuttle played at a power 5 school he probably wouldn't be as good of a player.
I give credit to Jacobson for getting his players to play good as a team. Improving individual game is up to the individual. Did Jacobson really teach Tuttle some secret post move that other coaches don't know about?
glidinghawk
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Tuttle did not have those Kaminsky-like post moves until the last 2 years. I'd say coaching had something to do with it.
Every UNI player plays SMART, and that includes all the young guys. A guy like Lohaus makes Iowa's Dickerson look like a high schooler when it comes to court awareness and being smart with the basketball.
I'm amazed how well UNI players, every single one of them, are so well-coached on defensive postioning and staying in front of their man, fighting through screens, switching, and great athletic ability in their footwork. Coaches have a lot to do with that, because so many young kids come out of high school clueless about playing defense. Jok would learn to play D at UNI. He's not learning much at Iowa.
NEIChawk
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And Gliding, defense is what wins games, and that's why UNI is good in that regard, play no "D", Ben says ride the pine.....gotta play "D" to see the court...
And then I looked back at the Wisconsin game, and Iowa let's Dekker run from half-court, and get a dunk....now that's where a timeout needed to be called, and Fran lay down the law...poor effort for who was guarding him, and an even more poor effort for not "stopping" ball....
And then I looked back at the Wisconsin game, and Iowa let's Dekker run from half-court, and get a dunk....now that's where a timeout needed to be called, and Fran lay down the law...poor effort for who was guarding him, and an even more poor effort for not "stopping" ball....
