Rank 'Em - Big 10 Coaches

As far as the Tressel and Ferentz comparison, cherry picking a few lower ranked OSU recruits to say Tressel can be compared to Ferentz in doing more with less is not really the right way to go.

Rather, look at it this way. You go out to play sandlot football. You decide to pick teams against another guy. The other guy gets to pick his entire team before you get your first choice. That is the way it works for Ferentz with respect to OSU.

Now, if your team played the other team and you kept it highly competitive, who would you think did the better job coaching?
 
Tressel (his track record speaks for itself)
Ferentz (does more with less than anyone in the game)
Fitz (love the passion and knows how to get his teams ready to play)
Paterno (would be higher on my list, but I'm not convinced he's all that involved anymore,
but still awesome!)
Dantonio (seems to get the talent, and his team is darn close)
Bielema (see Fitz, but more of a snake oil salesman - sweet tattoo though)
Hope (really seems to have things on the right track)
Lynch (likable guy...needs to get some recruits)
Rodriguez (what me? I didn't do it...)
Brewster (best stadium in the country...right...)
Zook (please stay as long as you like)


This is spot on. Danny Hope will be interesting to watch in the next few yrs, especially if he can get higher rated recruits.
 
As far as the Tressel and Ferentz comparison, cherry picking a few lower ranked OSU recruits to say Tressel can be compared to Ferentz in doing more with less is not really the right way to go.

Rather, look at it this way. You go out to play sandlot football. You decide to pick teams against another guy. The other guy gets to pick his entire team before you get your first choice. That is the way it works for Ferentz with respect to OSU.

Now, if your team played the other team and you kept it highly competitive, who would you think did the better job coaching?

That is a great way to think about it.
 
That's not very fair to Tressel. Yes, the success is expected. That doesn't mean that Tressel cannot be the best coach. For all the talent that OSU brings in, Tressel has produced his fair share of diamonds in the rough (3 stars or fewer). Here are some examples:

3-stars: A.J. Hawk (2002), Doug Datish (2002), Ashton Youboty (2003), Todd Boeckman (2003), Antonio Pittman (2004), James Laurenaitis (2005), Malcom Jenkins (2005)

2-stars: Brian Robiskie (2005), Chimdi Chekwa (2006)

1-star/no stars: Nick Mangold (2002), Aaron Pettrey (2004)

While the list is not quite so extensive as ours, that's hardly a list to scoff at. Nearly all of those players ended up in the NFL (or will be soon in the case of Chekwa), and several of them are Pro Bowlers. So it's not like Tressel does the Pete Carroll and snags 3 5-star players at every position and just lets them play. He takes his fair share of overlooked guys and helps them become superstars, too.
No easy answer here for sure. One thing for sure is Iowa runs on 2 and 3 stars. tOSU doesn't. That's all I'm saying.
 
Fitz sure has some fans bamboozled with his bluster and ''passion''. He blew the bowl game last year. He has not won a bowl game. He has a good defensive coach in Hankowitz,which is part of being a head coach,but guys like Dickrod,Bielema and JoePa have won big as head coaches in BCS conferences, while this guy has not.

Just because he has beaten Iowa,it does not make him some kind of great coach.
Win a bowl,fitz...and mature beyond a junior varsity coach mentality and then we will talk. Longtime sportswriter Jim O'Donnell nailed Fitz last year for blowing all this smoke to the writers in his sessions with the media,bragging about his program being better than ND and Stanford...guy needs to grow up if he wants to belong to this conference coaching fraternity.
 
Tressel (his track record speaks for itself)
Ferentz (does more with less than anyone in the game)
Fitz (love the passion and knows how to get his teams ready to play)
Paterno (would be higher on my list, but I'm not convinced he's all that involved anymore,
but still awesome!)
Dantonio (seems to get the talent, and his team is darn close)
Bielema (see Fitz, but more of a snake oil salesman - sweet tattoo though)
Hope (really seems to have things on the right track)
Lynch (likable guy...needs to get some recruits)
Rodriguez (what me? I didn't do it...)
Brewster (best stadium in the country...right...)
Zook (please stay as long as you like)

^This is how I feel...I'm not convinced that Paterno isn't the "Queen of England" at PSU-just a figurehead. I saw his interview he is REALLY starting to look his age this year I thought.
 
No easy answer here for sure. One thing for sure is Iowa runs on 2 and 3 stars. tOSU doesn't. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not disagreeing with that. I just don't like it when people make it sound like Tressel does nothing but recruit, then lets guys go out and play sandlot. He does take under the radar guys and turn them into stars. That's just something that always seems to get overlooked in regards to Tressel. The guy can coach 'em up, he just doesn't have to do as much of it as Ferentz does.
 
Brewster should be last. There's no reason to ever put him higher. I think Zook is awful, but he did take his team to the Rose Bowl. Brewster has done nothing with his program. Nothing.

And why, in God's name, does everyone have Fitz so high??? I don't get it.
 
Paterno
Tressel
Ferentz
Bielema
Fitz
Rodriguez
Dantonio
Hope
Dantonio
Lynch
Zook
brewster


Don't see how you can even come close to comparing Kf resume to the top two. I love KF, but two bcs games in 10+ years is not best coach material. I think he is the best for Iowa, but not the best coach if that's possibile.
 
as they are now, or based on accomplishments?

now:
1 Tressel
2 Ferentz
3 Paterno, Fitzgerald
5 Bielema, Pelini, Rodriguez (based on WVU)
8 Dantonio, Lynch, Hope (lack of evidence)
11 Brewster
12 Zook
 
Paterno
Tressel
Ferentz
Bielema
Fitz
Rodriguez
Dantonio
Hope
Dantonio
Lynch
Zook
brewster


Don't see how you can even come close to comparing Kf resume to the top two. I love KF, but two bcs games in 10+ years is not best coach material. I think he is the best for Iowa, but not the best coach if that's possibile.

i think it's more of a right at this moment thing.
 
So if given the choice, you'd take Tressel as head coach of Iowa over Ferentz? I can honestly say that there isn't another coach in the country at any level that I'd rather have coaching Iowa over Ferentz.

No one is a better coach or fit for Iowa, but the question wasn't who would you rather have coaching at Iowa.

On paper, Jim Tressel absolutely dworfs Ferentz.

I wouldn't want Tressel at Iowa because I don't think he'd be able to do as well as Ferentz does at Iowa, but I'm not sure Ferentz at OSU over the last decade would lead OSU to better results than they've achieved.
 
Brewster should be last. There's no reason to ever put him higher. I think Zook is awful, but he did take his team to the Rose Bowl. Brewster has done nothing with his program. Nothing.

And why, in God's name, does everyone have Fitz so high??? I don't get it.


I agree on Fitz. The guy has a losing record vs the Big Ten...and an overall record of 27-24 with 12 of those wins vs the worst non-conference opponents you can find like Towson St. ect.
Iowa is about the only good team they have ever beaten under Fitz,and that makes him a good coach? Nah.
 
1. Sweater vest. Yeah, success at OSU is expected. But it's also expected at Michigan -- it's easy to stumble. Continued success is not easy. The last time Tressel had a losing record was 1995, at Youngstown State.
2. Jo Pa. He is a legend, and gets bonus points for that. He also gets points for continuing a tradition of strong teams after joining one of the premier conferences in the nation. The Nits are 86-50 in conference play since joining. Not shabby.
3. Captain Kirk. My Black and Gold blood wants to put him higher. It does. He consistently does more with less and has proved his worth to the program. I however, still put him third overall in the conference. It's easy to argue him No. 1. It's also easy to put him at No. 2, and No. 3. Looking at the company, that's quite a complement.
4. Bret Bielema. Took over a program that was built up, and has maintained success. He’s compiled 20-12 record in conference and done it with tradional smash-mouth football and defense. His bowl record is 2-2, not stellar, but it is only four games.
6. Pat Fitzgerald. Yeah, he blew the bowl game. But he's the first coach since Bob Voights to have a winning record at the school after his first four seasons. His team has shown a consistent progression over the four years of his tenure. His 15-17 record against the conference may look week - but we are talking about a school with an all-time record of 476-619-44 and just 8 bowl games in school history.
6. Mark Dantonio. MSU is waiting for a guy to take them to the next level. Not sure he's the guy. Had a nice 9-4 season in 2008, but the finish of 2009 is nearly unforgivable. He simply couldn’t keep his team on task at the end of the season. Lost in what should be renamed The Distraction Bowl, leaving him with a lifetime 1-3 bowl record.
7. Danny Hope. The jury is very out on him. He did a nice job for Eastern Kentucky.
8. Tim Brewster. Helping the Gophers jump from 1-11 to 7-6 and back-to-back bowl seasons helped move him up the list.
9. Rich Rod. I gave extra credit for WV years. At this part of the list, life isn't pretty. And it's really bad for a guy to be this far down when coaching at one of "The Big Three." He has yet to prove anything in the Big 10. He definitely hasn't been able to adjust his system to the players he has and the conference he's in. Sound like a former Iowa hoops coach to anyone?
10. Ron Zook. Not a Big 10 coach, but does recruit good talent. He just doesn't know how to use it. Had three nice years at Florida, and has had one nice year in the Big 10.
11. Bill Lynch. For more than 60 years, Indiana has been a study of football futility. Lynch is not a Big 10 coach - only seven winning seasons since 1985 in places like Butler, Ball State and DePauw.​

 
zook
punky, dickrod (tie)
fitz
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everybody else



this is my ranking of biggest d-bag coaches in the B10 :rolleyes::D
 
Pelini (He is undefeated in the Big Ten 1-0)
Tressel
Paterno
Ferentz
Fitz
Bielema
Hope
Dantonio
Lynch
Brewster
Zook
Rodriguez
 
1. Sweater vest. Yeah, success at OSU is expected. But it's also expected at Michigan -- it's easy to stumble. Continued success is not easy. The last time Tressel had a losing record was 1995, at Youngstown State.

2. Jo Pa. He is a legend, and gets bonus points for that. He also gets points for continuing a tradition of strong teams after joining one of the premier conferences in the nation. The Nits are 86-50 in conference play since joining. Not shabby.
3. Captain Kirk. My Black and Gold blood wants to put him higher. It does. He consistently does more with less and has proved his worth to the program. I however, still put him third overall in the conference. It's easy to argue him No. 1. It's also easy to put him at No. 2, and No. 3. Looking at the company, that's quite a complement.
4. Bret Bielema. Took over a program that was built up, and has maintained success. He’s compiled 20-12 record in conference and done it with tradional smash-mouth football and defense. His bowl record is 2-2, not stellar, but it is only four games.
6. Pat Fitzgerald. Yeah, he blew the bowl game. But he's the first coach since Bob Voights to have a winning record at the school after his first four seasons. His team has shown a consistent progression over the four years of his tenure. His 15-17 record against the conference may look week - but we are talking about a school with an all-time record of 476-619-44 and just 8 bowl games in school history.
6. Mark Dantonio. MSU is waiting for a guy to take them to the next level. Not sure he's the guy. Had a nice 9-4 season in 2008, but the finish of 2009 is nearly unforgivable. He simply couldn’t keep his team on task at the end of the season. Lost in what should be renamed The Distraction Bowl, leaving him with a lifetime 1-3 bowl record.
7. Danny Hope. The jury is very out on him. He did a nice job for Eastern Kentucky.
8. Tim Brewster. Helping the Gophers jump from 1-11 to 7-6 and back-to-back bowl seasons helped move him up the list.
9. Rich Rod. I gave extra credit for WV years. At this part of the list, life isn't pretty. And it's really bad for a guy to be this far down when coaching at one of "The Big Three." He has yet to prove anything in the Big 10. He definitely hasn't been able to adjust his system to the players he has and the conference he's in. Sound like a former Iowa hoops coach to anyone?
10. Ron Zook. Not a Big 10 coach, but does recruit good talent. He just doesn't know how to use it. Had three nice years at Florida, and has had one nice year in the Big 10.
11. Bill Lynch. For more than 60 years, Indiana has been a study of football futility. Lynch is not a Big 10 coach - only seven winning seasons since 1985 in places like Butler, Ball State and DePauw.​
Excellent synopsis! Best I've read in awhile....seriously!
 

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