Peyton Mansell in Transfer Portal
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#1DieHardHawk
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Dan was certainly hyped when he came in.
The rumor is that he didn't handle competing for the position very well, and was grumbling that he should be starting. Obviously, some of that is maturity. At that age, it's hard not to get caught up in your own hype.
Interestingly, when Iowa later played SDSU, apparently McGuire snuck out of the press room early to avoid talking to Hayden. Kind of classless, IMO. I'm sure Hayden would have treated him with nothing but respect.
I could be wrong, but Iowa played SD St in 86 and I don't think McGwire left untill after the 87 season.
I'm not sure this could have happened. McGuire played for Iowa in 1986-1987. He was one of 3 QBs who were competing for the job before Hertlieb finally got control.
He played for SDSU in 1989-1990. Iowa didn't play them either year. They played them at the end of the 1986 season when McGwire was a backup QB at Iowa.
#1DieHardHawk
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Could be. I'll have to go back and look it up, but I'm certain there was a situation where McGuire was being interviewed after he transferred, and, when he heard Hayden was about to come in the room, he snuck out. I even recall the announcers commenting on the fact that it was poor form on the part of McGuire.
I assumed it was a game situation, but it must have been something else. That's going to bug the shit out of me now....
Can we put this whole union card thing to rest once and for all?
Mekhi Sargent, Colton Rastetter, Amani Jones, Kaevon Merriweather, and probably one or two guys I'm forgetting are all former starters who lost there starting spot on this past years team. There is no union card and there never was.
The Big LeHAWKski
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For the benefit of the highly unaware millenials, Gen Z's and whatever other age group they have now, the over-under on how many times the game announcers would mention Big Dan's height was somewhere around 8.5...at that was just in the first half.
For every single game he played in it was a constant barrage of his Anabol-brother and his height - his height and his anabol-brother, his height, his height, his height.
It was to the point you wanted to scream at the TV "JFC at this point everyone on planet earth by now KNOWS HOW F-ING TALL HE IS!"
So yeah, our struggles were real.
BigD
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Great! He will blend in with Brian’s scoring offense.
Is there an unwritten Iowa rule that says we can’t have a QB that can run and chew gum at the same time?
Great! He will blend in with Brian’s scoring offense.
Is there an unwritten Iowa rule that says we can’t have a QB that can run and chew gum at the same time?
I don't think it is ideal to have an un-athletic quarterback, but it is obvious this staff doesn't believe in the RPO system of a running quarterback. For good reason too. For one, getting through the gauntlet of the B1G healthy with a running quarterback is extremely hard to do. Look at OSU and Urb's system, his quarterbacks got hurt every year, except for the pocket passer they had. Also, the best RPO quarterbacks are hard to get and with the new transfer rules even harder to keep. And your team goes as your quarterback goes.
So instead they believe in play action, it does the same thing basically as the RPO. You don't need an athletic quarterback to do it. But it is be beneficial to have a quarterback with a big arm. And accurate. But you have to protect him.
If you look back on the last 2 years, if Stanley had just executed the makeables and we could have given him a clean pocket most of the time, these teams go undefeated. The system is sound.
homes
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Good luck to him. Don't blame him if he wants a shot to be a starter. There have been starting QB competitions at Iowa under Ferentz, one can debate how common those are, but they have existed. He must understand that he's being passed by in consideration for the starting QB, and doesn't want to be the Just One Play Away guy.
hawkeyebob62
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I'll never be "un"tired of remembering Brent Musberger with his, "I hope Iowa gets a big lead so maybe we can see...BIG...DAAAAN...MCGWIIIIIRE!"
BigD
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I see your point but there are times when the pocket collapses and being able to scramble to buy time can be a tremendous asset. That is what made Brad Banks so dangerous. So really I agree with your point of not wanting to run a QB on a regular basis, but how great would it be to have a QB who can be elusive enough to buy time for receivers to get open.
Being a bears fan for along time I would get so frustrated how the Minnesota Vikings QB, Fran Tarkenton would escape so many apparent sacks just to make a big pass at a critical time in the game.
On the other hand I enjoyed Bud Grants frustration as the Viking head coach as he would watch Walter Sweetness Payton run through his defense like a hot knife through soft butter.
TommyBahama
Active Member
McGwire was the 16th pick of the 1st round to the Seahawks. As a long faithful Seahawks fan, those were very dark days. He sucked. Definitely no Russell Wilson.
I see your point but there are times when the pocket collapses and being able to scramble to buy time can be a tremendous asset. That is what made Brad Banks so dangerous. So really I agree with your point of not wanting to run a QB on a regular basis, but how great would it be to have a QB who can be elusive enough to buy time for receivers to get open.
Being a bears fan for along time I would get so frustrated how the Minnesota Vikings QB, Fran Tarkenton would escape so many apparent sacks just to make a big pass at a critical time in the game.
On the other hand I enjoyed Bud Grants frustration as the Viking head coach as he would watch Walter Sweetness Payton run through his defense like a hot knife through soft butter.
I dont disagree with you in the slightest, having a quarterback with packet awareness and escapability would be a great thing. Probably the difference in wins and losses a lot of the time. He doesn't have to run for 100 yards a game or even break out the 30, 40 or 50 yard game, just know what to do when the pocket breaks down on 3rd and 6 or 3rd and 4 and get it done without killing yourself.
A stat I heard today was that Lamar Jackson is the most accurate passer in his first 2 years than any other qb. He is a generational talent, but I dont think he is known for his accuracy, but, his legs sure make his receivers more wide open. Moral of that story for us is that it would be nice if the defense had to atleast respect the run.
BigD
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Totally agree.
That's a bit of a surprise as far as where he's going. I didn't suspect he'd go FCS. But it kinda feels like he hadn't been looking long and may not have had a ton of options perhaps. I dunno but either way hope he can play and have fun. Maybe he'll totally dominate. I don't know anything about their program I'm pretty much in the dark on them.
RobHowe
Administrator
If he transferred to FBS by rule he would have to sit a year and then have one to play. Of course, NCAA is handing out waivers to QBs like crazy, but that's if you're going to a blue blood.
This one makes sense. His wife goes to college nearby. I have a sense that he knew where he as going before entering the portal.
This one makes sense. His wife goes to college nearby. I have a sense that he knew where he as going before entering the portal.
Fryowa
Administrator
In the Big Ten, and especially in Iowa's place in the world, there's zero, and I mean zero, chance that going to an RPO guy would work. You'd end up with Adrian Martinez 2.0 and it's one of the reasons Frost can't make it work there. You'd have a guy who can't throw worth a F who's injured all the time and worthless as tits on a boar.
Get a guy who can both run and throw you say?
Well, there are teams that're able to do that and they're called Clemson and Alabama. Any QB who's good enough to fit that bill is going to the SEC/ACC for a top 5 team, not Iowa. Play action is what works here, and we can get recruits who are good at it. Iowa would be getting sloppy thirds and fourths in the RPO quarterback market; don't screw it up by trying to ram a square peg into a round hole.
We've proven we can recruit and develop elite OLs more often than not and we crank out early draft picks like clockwork. Along with TEs who can block and catch screams pocket QBs. People wanting some Lamar Jackson wannabe scrambler type couldn't be more wrong.
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